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Reddit Migration

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Interested in getting a feel for what people may be likely to do IF reddit reverses their decision regarding API access, or reduces access fees to a reasonable level and 3rd party apps remain sustainable.

While I know the chances of this are extreeeemely slim, until 1st July there is an ever so slight chance this could still happen.

From my perspective, the community harm is done, and those who have left prior to July 1 have left due to principles, not because their app stopped working. As such, I'd be inclined to think most of those migrators would stay here in the fediverse.

But would we see a mass exodus back to reddit if the changes were undone? It's easy to say no, but if it went back to operations as relatively normal, it may be easy to justify going back for some users.

I'd like to think I wouldn't go back. I've deleted content and account from reddit. I'll be happy here so long as there is enough userbase for some discussion.

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[–] CrystalEYE@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Does not matter if they revert the changes or not at this point. I found a new home here and will keep using it.
I will still keep my reddit-Account and do the same as with my FB-account: Visit the site once a month to check up on the one or two communities that unfortunately stayed there.

[–] UlfarrOT@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I didn't leave reddit because of the API changes. I left reddit because they're treating their userbase and their volunteer moderators that keep the community clean to their standards for them like absolute shit

[–] adamthinks@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'm gone for good. I've been looking for good alternatives for a long while. I really don't agree with what reddit has done, but I'm glad they did it. Because it created the desire for so many to seek change. Reddit has been a cesspool for a long while.

[–] dedale@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit was unusable way before the last scandal. Main problems being arbitrary, opaque moderation, astroturfing, low-effort posts, bots, general meanness and negativity.
It got to the point where it felt like you were more likely to interact with a bot or a propagandist than a normal human being.
Reddit is an advertising platform masquerading as social media.
It'll probably happen here too, but it might take a while.

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Bridges got burned. Not possible for myself to go back at this point.

[–] benji@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've had my account on reddit for well over 17 years, was in the first 1000 users to register, but regardless of what they do I'm mentally working thru deleting it. I will soon.

Reddit in 2005/6 felt much like this place is now.

[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I don't see that a reversal at this point would be any different to Twitter suddenly becoming usable again. The damage has already been done, it can't be reversed. Even with a pinky swear that Reddit will never pull this shit again, the trust is gone. Just like with Twitter - Elon could f*** off to Mars tomorrow, but the next person to step in and run Twitter could be just as bad, or worse. And both companies can implement any changes they like at any time with zero worry about what happens to the users. Thus - it's the wake-up call we all needed, that someone else's platform is really someone else's platform - regardless of how long we have had a home there. It's time for own platform, a community run platform.

I like the fediverse but the centralised nature of reddit is much less confusing. Really I would probably see where the communities are and stay wherever is most convenient. If Reddit did undo their changes then the chances are a few communities might move back to reddit or stay there, and the app devs may also cancel plans to make other fediverse clients, so it would be a tricky decision for me in my mind.

Reddit is the community more than it is the site in my mind.

[–] ecocode@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

I'm just done with reddit.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit is dead to me and my account is long gone. Everything I lost from reddit over the years is here. No need to go back.

[–] matricaria@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I left Reddit for good, I deleted my account. Maybe I will occasionally check Libreddit/Teddit if that will be possible. But my Reddit feed became pretty boring in the last weeks, many people left, many subs are still protesting.

Yet I’m not fully convinced that Kbin/Lemmy is the answer for me. I’m questioning if the whole social news aggregator is what I want.

Currently I’m mostly reading Hacker News.

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[–] theparadox@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I want to avoid enshitification, and enshitification is more or less the ultimate goal of those who own reddit. This isn't the first time they've tried to extract value from the site with utter disregard for users and moderators. If they didn't get their way this time, they'll just try again later. Perhaps more politely or more slowly, but the writing is on the wall. Has been for a while.

[–] Poisontaffy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

This reminds me a bit of Wizards Of the Coast. As a MTG and D&D player, I experienced multiple times the company treating the player base like shit, getting flak, crawling back, and repeating this over and over. At some point I figured I'm an idiot for accepting their remorse - they are constantly trying to see what they can get away with, and the only sensible response is an irrevocable ban.

From my perspective, Spez's response to the community is unforgivable - there is no amount of crawling back that will appease me - I have no intent in continuing to invest my time and effort in a platform that I believe will continue to try to get away with what they can, just like WOTC.

[–] Hatchet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I actually ceased interacting on Reddit personally some time ago, and was just a lurker, using Relay to stay up to date with tech news. This was the last straw to remove the last vestiges of Reddit from my life. I've made a habit of reading HN and subscribing to RSS feeds, so Reddit was redundant anyways.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I’ll live here, but I might poke into Reddit for the more obscure communities that can’t really survive a migration. Reddit knows what it wants and even if it fails this time, they’ll get sly with it and push more and more until they’re satisfied.

The biggest news is going to make it over here at this point anyway.

[–] batterysoup@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Good question. I only just created an account, but I don't know if I'd go back. I used sync for reddit (apparently being ported for lemmy) so if I can't keep using that I wouldn't browse reddit on my mobile.

I just hope some of the gaming communities and their users migrate over as well a lot of the tech support and branded subreddits - googling "X vacuum issue reddit" or "dragon scale farming botw reddit" will be hard to transition from. I don't think this will happen overnight.

Likewise, I think there needs to be a better way of handling duplicated federated instances as I can see this being annoying / a confusing turn off for new users.

[–] endlessvoid@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There's no going back, I can't wait to see Reddit filled with loads of low quality content

[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 2 points 1 year ago

I was always all-in on the fediverse. Reddit died a long time ago for me.

[–] stackPeek@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The way they handle made me sick. Reddit will never be the same again for me.

[–] islandmonkeee@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I think I would be happy reading stuff on Reddit again but apart from that, my participation is over.

[–] Thaliff@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The same thing I did when Wotc tried to invalidate the ogl, walk away from any future support of their products and find better options, which is why I'm here.

[–] LoamImprovement 2 points 1 year ago

After Steve's behavior and treatment of the mods and developers, I wouldn't go back if they paid me. Even in the best case scenarios, they can't undo the damage that's already been done.

[–] nude@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Im using reddit to look at boobs, fediverse for everything else.
When the reddit boobs dry up, ill look elsewhere.

I figure it cant hurt if its purely NSFW. They dont make ad revenue from it, I get to see boobs.

[–] ElZoido@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No Reddit has been getting worse for the past few years already. If they were to reverse the decision now, it would probably only be temporary anyway, until they find a new way to increase monetization.

[–] 667@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I really have no choice. I’m primarily a mobile user via 3rd party app because their native app sucks in so many different ways. In fact, I replied to this very thread from my phone.

When the API gets cut off, I get cut off because I don’t—nor won’t—live in front of my computer.

[–] envis10n@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The damage is done. The administration at Reddit has shown they will do whatever it takes to stamp out dissent... except for actually listen to the users.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit needs more revenue. They're not profitable, and never have been. The only means they have for getting that revenue is manipulating me so that I watch more ads, or selling my content to others without my explicit consent.

Which means I'm done with Reddit, and for-profit social media, forever.

[–] abcd@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I won’t return to Reddit. In my case the bridge is burned.

I deleted all my comments/posts and will only keep my account in case you need one sometime in the future to read stuff. Otherwise it will be used to block my old username.

Except for reading specific stuff when I’m googling for solutions I’m not going to use Reddit anymore. Since the blackout the number of posts increased so heavily that I don’t experience much difference to Reddit. Except one thing: The people here are much less toxic!

[–] jinno@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

To be perfectly honest - I’ll likely stay here for content that typically ends up in large subs. Programming, World News, Politics, Ask _? That’s pretty well covered here.

But I’d use my third party app of choice to check in on subs that haven’t really taken off here yet. I haven’t had a decent conversation about One Piece yet on this platform. The Colts magazine equally dead. Game specific magazines and conversations are not very active here.

[–] JunkMilesDavis@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine we're at the point where the Titanic has split in two, and the remaining portion is held afloat by trapped air. You can patch the hole made by the iceberg, but it probably won't change my plans too much.

[–] Perry@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I would probably be using both, in that case. The Threadiverse feels a lot like the early days of Reddit and I would love to be part of it and see it grow up. Assuming this keeps expanding, it's too late for me to go back to exclusively using Reddit at this point. Giga brain Mr. Huffman made sure of that.

However, there are numerous great communities at Reddit that haven't found a place here yet. Especially many of the smaller subs that were already very niche as it is, and that one probably won't not find anywhere else anytime soon.

I'm already regularly using multiple different sites as it is. Both larger international ones, as well as smaller local blogs and forums. I don't personally see an issue by itself to keep both Reddit and Kbin on that list.

Hopefully, we will see entirely new communities pop up and grow in the Threadiverse. That is, communities that aren't just different flavours of "Reddit sucks". Not saying it's not entertaining, but I think we need to broaden the scope a bit going forward. :)

[–] funchords@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There are two communities that I'll stay on Reddit for, but my interest even in them is dying (and was dying even before this spez idiocy).

As for the other 80% of my participation on forums, I have liked what I'm seeing on the Reddit alternatives and I am likely going to get my cup filled there. So, for me, this whole shitshow has been a win and not a loss.

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