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Another update and possibly a solution for some case where posts were not properly deleted. Seems I jumped the gun on this and the restores haven't been intentional - at least not in this particular case.

There is a limitation in the popular Powerdelete that apparently prevents mass editing. Here is a link to a new version with a build-in delay and some other alternatives:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/145fico/comment/jnl4xmr/

There are other reported cases where manually deleted post reappeared or other scripts have been used, so this doesn't solve all issues but explains how posts that were both edited and deleted withPowerdelete weren't properly deleted and reappeared after subs went back live.

Update: As some have pointed out: the restores can be rollbacks from the server issues or post haven't been properly deleted due to subs being private during blackouts. Many have experienced the same issue, I can't explain how this happens. I'll just run the script again, try the GDPR request and delete my account.

Also worth noting: according to the ToS Reddit can actually do whatever they want with existing content, apparently we agreed to this when signing up.

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[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Does anyone know if we have similar rights under PIPEDA here in Canada? Can we use that to legally enforce deletion in the same way?

https://blog.rsisecurity.com/canadas-pipeda-vs-eus-gdpr-whats-the-difference/amp/

What the actual fuck?

This really is getting worse by the minute..

[–] bad_luck_charm@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My money is on this being a big due to the huge influx of comment updates and deletions. I can’t imagine they would do something this blatant on purpose.

[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I can’t imagine they would do something this blatant on purpose.

We are at the peak of the "AI" hype cycle, where training data is a huge asset. Never underestimate the power of $$$ (or the illusion of it) being waved under somebody's nose.

[–] millions@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

GDPR laws take the wheel

[–] rastilin@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Their" content.

EDIT: I mean, I agree that this is a new low even for social media. I think Stack Overflow made a similar statement when they stopped exporting to the internet archive, "their" content, not the user's content on their site. The users disagreed and I think the export has restarted, but it definitely shows you what the new group of CEOs think of their communities.

I'm definitely sticking to using only federated social media going forward, even for marketing.

[–] frasassi@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

They are going full send on pissing everyone off at this point

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps delete and replace the comment with text that explicitly claims copyright on the deleted message and denies Reddit a license to use the deleted content? It would be good to get a legal eagle willing to look at the Reddit user agreement and content licensing and see if there is a legally literate way of denying them use deleted content once it has been submitted.

[–] Trebach@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're in the EU, submit a request to have it purged. If they refuse, that's a violation of the GDPR.

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[–] thek3nger@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy damn. I deleted all my comments and my account ~a week ago. I don't even know how to check if they restored something. 😠

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[–] thek3nger@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Holy damn. I deleted all my comments and my account ~a week ago. I don't even know how to check if they restored something. 😠

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Warning, someone on reddit mentioned this is a known bug of the application used

[–] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wait if the account is deleted can they still restore the comments?

[–] OmnipotentEntity 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In practice, it's hard to know exactly how Reddit structures the data they have and what exactly a delete actually does and what backups they have.

That being said, it's not out of the question that you could delete your post history, then your account, and reddit only restores your post history and not your account, leaving you unable to delete it again.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When an account is deleted, all the comments still exist, the author's name just changes to "[deleted]". You'd need to use a third-party tool that deletes all the comments individually, or potentially send them a GDPR or CCPA "right to be forgotten" request (although I'm unsure as to if this actually deletes the comments).

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[–] 50gp@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

looks like my comments deleted before blackout started are still deleted, so did they restore only more recent deletions?

[–] chri5@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Possibly, but several people reported some old post have been restored as well, some deleted a long time ago.

[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Currently I only have 2 comments still visible which for some reason the Power Delete tool couldn't remove. I will check back in a week though if someone can remind me, and see if any of mine have magically reappeared.

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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That link is just too request the bulk of your data. It's not a form to request deletion of all your data. Technically you could request that, but if they deny out ignore that, then there's not a whole lot you can do unless you're ready to take it to court.

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[–] itsonlybrad@infosec.exchange 2 points 1 year ago

@chri5 @Rairii jerk move. Can confirm a smattering of my edited and removed comments have been restored as well as removed submissions.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You should bear in mind, PowerDeleteSuite doesn't get everything. It can only see what's in your reddit profile under New, Top, Hot & Controversial - there will be numerous posts that are too old with only 1 or a few karma that aren't displayed in these lists. In particular, if you go through your top posts of all time, you might find some replies to these posts that you made that the script did not see.

The GDPR archive gives a full list of all the comments. What we need is a FOSS script that can use these csv files to get everything. Apparently Shreddit can take the csv files, however you have to pay $15 to use this feature.

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