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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
 

Most of you will say that the succesor to eMule is BitTorrent as it is the most widely used P2P network today, but there are some things that BitTorrent lacks and eMule provides. The most notorious for me are the following:

  • Built-in network-wide search
  • Easy sharing
  • Unique links

Maybe you don't consider this features important, but the fact is that with the approach BitTorrent takes, we are highly dependent on central points that make the network vulnerable. With BitTorrent we depend on trackers and link listing websites to share content. A torrent client is useless on its own if we don't have a link listing site to get torrents or magnet-links from. On the other side, with the built-in search eMule provides, one can start downloading without the need for a website to take links from.

Easy sharing is also very important, because it provides more peers to download files from. This is specially important on rare files, because with torrents the seeds to download a file can become scattered between different torrents and there can be 5 different torrents seeding the same data, yet they don't share peers. It is clear that one torrent with multiple seeds is preferred that multiple torrents with one seed each, for example.

When there is one single way to identify a file on the network (like with ed2k hashlinks) even the less tech-savvy users are able to contribute. Sharing on eMule is as simple as dropping the file you want to share on your incoming folder (even if it is not the optimal way to do it). In BitTorrent, you must download an existing torrent file or magnet link, stop the download, replace the half downloaded files with the ones you already had downloaded, making sure that you use the same directory structure and filenames that are defined in the torrent, recheck the torrent and start it, all this in order to share files you had downloaded previously. Tell a noob user to do that to help you download some rare file...

And now imagine that you have an entire drive full of sharing material, but the directory structure and filenames differ from the ones used on the torrents (because you like to keep things ordered in your hard drive). This scenario makes it impossible to share those files on the torrent network without creating brand new torrents, so you can't contribute and be one more seed on already existing torrents.

Why not use eMule then? Because it's slow, inneficient, and there is practically only one client that is no longer actively developed. Searching for alternatives, the most similar program that has various clients and is multiplatform is Direct Connect, but it is not decentralized, and different servers don't communicate with each other, so peers for the same file are not shared globally and instead are scattered around different hubs

Is there really no other program that works the way eMule does? Is there no true spiritual succesor to eMule nowadays?

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[–] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Just a heads up, You won't be able to use retroshare if you are under CGNAT - at least i wasn't able to .

[–] eric3a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I loved eMule. I had my company install a second T1 line for "business reasons" then never shared it with anyone else, and promptly used it all on my own with eMule. Downloading a few 700MB movies a day and contributing back was so sweet. In the early 00s having your own T1 eMule was peak high seas sailing.

Not sure what replaces it now, though I'd say there are so many other options, its just the nature of the beast

[–] gubatron@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Built-in network-wide search:
Try FrostWire, somewhat achieves this by aggregating search through the biggest torrent indices, also searches and downloads from youtube

Easy sharing and unique links:
Magnet links are there for this. And now smaller v2 torrents.

[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

emule is not slow. It's really fast (with emule client). You just need to have high id. The lack of clients is an issue and amule although it works is crap (it's really slow and the dev doesn't acknowledge that - there's some problem in the download queues...).

If you don't want to use emule, use gnutella - namely gtk-gnutella. It supports magnet links (as long as they contain the bitprint hash), integrated search, windows, linux and mac, and it's fast (since there's no queue management, it depends on the uploader speed). The only problem is the lack of files being shared.

Or better yet, use shareaza. It supports bittorrent, emule, gnutella, g2 networks. There's the problem of not being developed anymore (there are some forks, but they are mostly dead) and the bittorrent support is not the most up to date, so some trackers block it.

[–] supervent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I still use MLDonkey 3.1.7 (July 2020) on my debian server to connect to ed2k/kad and bittorrent and it works without any problems. It is very resource efficient but has a bit of a learning curve to set up and use.

[–] TornadoValley@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm quite happy with DC++ but the only worthwhile hubs are super private and gate keepy

I thought eMule is still quite active?

[–] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Rentlar 1 points 1 year ago
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