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The reddit blackout is even more effectivte than expected! 5177/8829 (~60%) of subreddits are still dark [1] and the posts per minute are down to 1000 from 1400 [2].

This is huge. Subreddits were supposed to be back up yesterday. I personally missed Reddit the first day but now I am super comfortable here.

Glad to have found a new place to hang out!

Edit: Reddit has 100k subs, 60% out of those who officially signed up


[1] https://reddark.untone.uk/

[2] https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/news/Reddit-Blackout-dauert-an-30-Prozent-weniger-Aktivitaet-Werbebranche-wartet-ab-9189048.html?wt_mc=rss.red.ho.ho.rdf.beitrag.beitrag&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only to add some clarification: reddark is only showing you the list of subs that announced they'd go dark versus the amount of those subs that have gone dark.

The exact number is hard to pin down, but reddit claims to have "100k+" active communities.

So 60% of the subs that said they'd go dark are still dark.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Correct. At best estimate that's 5%of reddit communities but the impact in users might be much larger as a lot of those 100k subs have just 1 or 2 subs

[–] Tormented@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I deleted my 12 year old account history after the "AMA" with Spez and will be fully deleting my account on the 30th. That being said I clicked back on reddit today and browsed a bit of what was up and after spending the last few days on kbin and beehaw I don't think I can go back.

The amount of toxicity that I was putting up with on reddit was astounding. I can't believe I didn't notice it was so bad, even on the smaller subs I was active in. I always have referred to reddit as a cesspit with islands of good content, but I think the landscape changed while I wasn't paying attention.

I do hope the protest works and 3rd party devs can continue their wonderful apps, but reddit is kind of over for me regardless. The fediverse somehow feels like the early internet, kinda like going home.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's not have too rose colored glasses. A lot of it is because lemmy and kbin are tiny and haven't received their "eternal September" moment yet. It's bound to get worse so I hope our moderation tools will evolve sufficiently until then

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[–] Woovie@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Right there with you, also had a 12 year old account and deleted it. It's absurd how this is going. Federated definitely feels more tight knit and less just a media consumption platform.

[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

The fediverse is definitely feeling like the early internet, and it's really taken me by surprise. Even though I reminisced about it and lamented it's loss, I think I never really understood just how much I missed it.

It's like 1995 all over again, and it's glorious.

[–] RealAccountNameHere@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you for eloquently putting into words what I've been feeling.

The day before the blackout, I was feeling a lot of grief. Reddit had been my "home" for more than a decade, and I thought i would miss the community. Instead, I feel…lighter? Things are much nicer here!

[–] operator@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

100% more nicer. Les toxic and definitely a feeling of humanity. Hard to explain, but the majority of comments over at reddit just don't feel human. Needed to change in order to realize.

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[–] Nonameuser678@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I'm having a similar experience in realising how much toxicity I've normalised on reddit. Going back on there now feels so absurd.

[–] alternativeninja@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That ama was the most unprofessional bunch of dogs shit I have ever seen from the ceo of a multimillion dollar company.

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[–] JowlesMcGee@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just a heads up, those 8k subs are just the ones that pledged to go dark. The actual total number of subreddits is much higher.

Still, 60% of subs still participating is much higher than I had expected.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Came to clarify the same. Title is very misleading.

Agreed though, actually surprised at how many are still dark.

[–] Plain@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I also didn't expect that large of a percentage to continue. It's very rare nowadays for people to resist capitalism and just end up complicit in the end like the Netflix situation.

I'm glad Reddit has a backbone against its tyrant.

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[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is seriously impressive! I think a lot of us were worried this would all collapse after a couple of days. I don’t think they knew how many of us were looking for an excuse to quit. Their mobile site is trash. Their desktop site is trash. Their mobile app is trash. Forcing us to use them was just not a strong bargaining proposition.

[–] operator@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Comment levels are back to normal. But those creating the posts, initiating engagement are down and it will probably become worse once the API changes are in effect.

Subreddits are dark and posts will disappear from the Google Index reducing traffic to the site. Many big subs, as r/formula1 or r/apple to name a few, are dark indefinitely.

Moderators, those who keep the platform more or less peaceful, are sick of it - as you can see in the blackout rates.

The casual normie or lurker will see a drop in content, the site will gradually or exponentially loose its top value users and become a Facebook.

Or not. We'll know in a few months to come, the internet is a fast paced place.

[–] Breakfulus_Emphotoga@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree, it definitely was uncomfortable moving from reddit at first, but seeing how familiar the site was, and how much nicer the community is, it feels more like an upgrade than just swapping platforms.

Also, I didn't expect the protest would have so much of an impact, but I'm all for it!

[–] operator@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can feel humans behind these posts. No AI generated content. No toxicity, no "in conclusion" and stupid summaries. Amazing

[–] Tight-laced@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel that so much.

No bots. No companies or agendas. Too small to be interesting to them as yet. I like it.

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[–] manwe@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I’m with you. It really is amazing how much kinder this community is. I love it!

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I deleted my 10 year old account this morning!

[–] orangepeeljedi@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

This is the way

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[–] Bell@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Subs going dark is great but keeping users off is the real goal. I'm not even going to view anything Reddit until corporate pulls back

[–] norbert@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

reddit is dead, it happens to all websites eventually and this is a long time coming. I'll never go back, I'm happy to have found the Fediverse.

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[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Almost 30% drop in posts per minute probably demonstrates better the real impact this blackout has had. And that's seems pretty drastic. Reddit must feel the impact.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Revoking the API really felt like one of those, "pull-up the ladder," moments. The API access and the choice of 3rd party UI's it allowed seemed like part of Reddit's initial community-focused strategy, a method to drive people there from other platforms by being more open and accessible by allowing people to experience it the way they wanted. Then, they stupidly pulled a Digg by revoking that with no way back.

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I'm doing my part

[–] Tyson712@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it's great and all just don't forget we're not here purely as anti-redditors, we're also here to build the new community. Not looking back is the only way to move forward

[–] operator@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for saying this! This post is merely to demonstrate the power of a unified community. The reddit community came together stronger than anyone expected and has ever happened.

[–] Link9454@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have to wonder how much of what’s left is just repost bots and spam bots. I’ve noticed since the blackout and I’ve stopped opening the app much, I’ve gotten a lot more of those stupid onlyfan bots following me.

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[–] indianastreet@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

This is the way

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

According to the the article's own source, https://blackout.photon-reddit.com, traffic is pretty much back to what it was before the black out. Not sure where they are getting that large drop from. Unless they are cherry picking a high start and finishing somewhere in the middle of the normal daily ebb and flow.

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[–] aegisgfx877@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 days will do nothing, give them a week next time we do this

[–] BiggestBulb@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Screw a week, we should have gone indefinite from the start. Spez would have pissed himself

[–] NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

No, he would have immediately replaced the mods with internal people and internal bots, and turned off the "private" option. Frankly, I expect he'll do that anyway, or, in 30 days, a whole bunch of them will be going up on RedditRequest - with a new group of powermods.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Check those stats next month when people can't use RIF, Appolo, etc.

[–] Jojo-Mcfrost572@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is you lot. I've been perusing all these new sites. Everywhere I go I see reddit mentioned and all the comments say exactly the same thing.

I like the protest. "I have visited reddit"

You aren't protesting if you keep going to it. You are an active users. Your click your ad revenue your engagement is not a protest.

In order to protest do not access the site. No app no website no third party. That hurts them. You can't protest but keep going on the site.

It's 3 days. It's tough. I've honestly struggled something stupid. J probably spend about 12 hours on and off reddit. Whenever I get a minute I hope on. First thing in the morning and last thing at night.

This is affirmative strike action. We are on the picket lines.

DO NOT CROSS THE POCKET LINE.

or it's not a strike

[–] operator@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that hundreds of thousands of users - probably the most valuable ones - are not using reddit (actively) for a few a days now is just astonishing. Sure, the amount of aggregated information over there is still huge so no one can be blamed for casually looking for something specific.

But those users here are the ones initiating the engagement, creating the posts and providing valueable and original content. That dropped drastically.

The majority of users only lurk and comment. Or are bots.

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[–] GreenAlex@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, really? I keep hearing that the whole thing was a disappointment. Hopefully people stick it out long enough to actually force some change, then.

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[–] earthling@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep this shit up! Blackouts won't mean anything to Huffman if we all come back after 48hrs.

[–] operator@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not hard to keep it up. Nothing dragging me back to reddit. the only thing i am missing is the immense amount of aggregated information

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[–] amio@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I noticed something weird earlier. I'd taken to doomscrolling r/all and just resigning myself to removing the maximum 100 subreddits roughly in order of annoyance. I had 99 blocked subs before the blackout, and now there are only 69. I don't think private subs would disappear from there, so... maybe those 30 subs just got axed in their entirety.

Either way... nice.

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[–] ID10T@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been away from Reddit since Monday. I do not mis it.

[–] operator@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Same. Missed in the first day maybe but out of habbit. You can see the growth in the community here compared to just a few days ago. Rich engagement, no toxic users and interesting & diverse content

[–] Amongog@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I think I've settled here. But I'm glad people are putting up the fight regardless.

Gotta fry the greedy porky boy /u/spez

[–] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

And subs which weren't closed are also flooded by posts supporting the blackout and shaming spez. So the post activity we see here is even inflated by protest posts.

[–] freebrick@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago
[–] NotABearJustAHuman@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It felt really good to delete my reddit account. I hadn't logged in or posted in months, and just lurked for a while. I was amazed at how toxic it had become. Reddit angries up the blood! (to paraphrase Grampa Simpson)

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[–] gorkx@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

any guesses to when the admin demote the mods?

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[–] viniciuspc@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me this blackout should have 6 months at minimun. 3 days do nothing at all.

[–] operator@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Many subs stay dark indefinitely. Had over to r/ModCoord to get an impression. r/formula1, r/apple, just to name some of the big ones.

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