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I've been doing RP with Wizard-Vicuna 13b Uncensored. it's good, very fast (ggml v3 q5-k-s variant) But sometimes forgets it's roleplaying and spits out a story
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The wizard-vicuna family is my favorite, they successfully combine lucidity with creativity. Wizard-vicuna-30b is competitive with guanaco-65b in most cases while being subjectively more fun. I hope we get a 65b version, or a Falcon 40B one
I've been generally unimpressed with models advertised as good for storytelling or roleplay, they tend to be incoherent. It's much easier to get wizard-vicuna to write fluent prose than it is to get one of those to stop mixing up characters or rules. I think there might be some sort of poison pill in the Pygmalion dataset, it's the common factor in all the models that didn't work well for me.
What setup do you have? Prompt / instruct formatting?
W-V is supposedly trained for "USER:/ASSISTANT:" but I've found it flexible and able to work with anything that's consistent. For creative writing I'll often do "USER:/STORY:". More than two such tags also work, e.g. I did a rpg-style thing with three characters plus an omniscient narrator, by just describing each of them with their tag in the prompt, and it worked nearly flawlessly. Very impressive actually.
guanaco-65B is my favorite. It's pretty hard to go back to 33B models after you've tried a 65B.
It's slow and requires a lot of resources to run though. Also, not like there are a lot of 65B model choices.
What do you e en run a 65b model on?
With a quantized GGML version you can just run on it on CPU if you have 64GB RAM. It is fairly slow though, I get about 800ms/token on a 5900X. Basically you start it generating something and come back in 30minutes or so. Can't really carry on a conversation.
Is it smart enough that it can get the thread of what you are looking for without as much rerolling or handholding, so this comes out better?
That's the impression I got from playing with it. I don't really use LLMs for anything practical, so I haven't done anything too serious with it. Here's are a couple examples of having it write fiction: https://gist.github.com/KerfuffleV2/4ead8be7204c4b0911c3f3183e8a320c
I also tried with plain old llama-65B: https://gist.github.com/KerfuffleV2/46689e097d8b8a6b3a5d6ffc39ce7acd
You can see it makes some weird mistakes (although the writing style itself is quite good).
If you want to give me a prompt, I can feed it to guanaco-65B and show you the result.
These are, indeed, pretty good, and quite coherent.
I was pretty impressed by guanaco-65B, especially how it was able to remain coherent even way past the context limit (with llama.cpp's context wrapping thing). You can see the second story is definitely longer than 2,048 tokens.
I'd have to say I'm very impressed with WizardLM 30B (the newer one). I run it in GPT4ALL, and even though it is slow the results are quite impressive.
Looking forward to Orca 13b if it ever releases!
Which one is the "newer" one? Looking at the quantised releases by TheBloke, I only see one version of 30B WizardLM (in multiple formats/quantisation sizes, plus the unofficial uncensored version).
Guanaco, WizardLM (uncensored) and Camel-13b have been the best models I've tried that are 13b+.
Surprisinly, the LaMini-LM (Flan 3b) and OpenLlama (3b) have performed very well for smaller models.
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