Just note that kbin.social currently has Cloudflare DDoS protection enabled which is breaking federation. Until this is removed, the communities are seperate.
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I've got my lemmy instance proxied through cloudflare. It can work if you make it work. It does take a page rule to get around some of the bot detection nonsense.
It may be worth passing that rule/config over to @Ernest@kbin.social
The captcha bot detector thing seems to be making it wonkier.
Good to know, I was wondering why I couldn't see any kbin stuff here
That mstdn.social and the whole "lemmy = tankie" (whatever the fuck that means) is doing a disservice to the whole unreddit movement. I have seen plenty of discussion on reddit now of people not leaving because of these posts..
I did not say "lemmy = tankie", I said Lemmy has certain tankie baggage, and that is in fact true. The developers are pretty clearly tankies, they also run a strictly tankie instance (Lemmygrad; many Lemmy instances do not federate with it).
Pretending this is not the case is not going to help in the long run. It might slow down the "unreddit" movement now, but I'd wager a bet it will make it more long-term viable and resilient, if people understand that choice of instance is important (there are quite a few great Lemmy instances that I would recommend wholeheartidly, like BeeHaw), and that there are alternative, independent implementations on Threadiverse (like Kbin).
This is great. It suddenly feels like the internet of 2003 again, with small communities popping up, competition and less of a corporate chokehold. Only this time they have a shared login and crosstalk, which was sorely lacking back then. If we are lucky this event might establish a stable, new part of the internet, which is separate from the consolidated platforms. The Fediverse doesn't have to replace sites like reddit, just be a next step for people fed up with the corporate net (corponet?).
I think it mainly comes down to the project landing page being more friendly and the UI being more polished.
The landing page of join-lemmy.org doesn't show what the website looks like. The only screenshots are of code and github. That section is geared towards potential instance administrators, not potential users.
The cloudflare protection of their main instance is breaking federation right now, which is a bit annoying. I hope this will be resolved soon.
The lack of app for KBin kills it for me.
I have a account with KBin and I may use it as well if there's an app
I am on both and kbin seems less active.
Perhaps the numbers are counted different?
lemmy might be counting people who have posted this month and kbin might be counting anyone who has visited the site.
Big respect to all the devs for handling this growth so well.
lemmy might be counting people who have posted this month and kbin might be counting anyone who has cisited the site.
The data is from The-Federation.info, and the idea is that the metric is about users whose accounts were active over the last month. I think "active" in both cases means "has logged in recently".
Big respect to all the devs for handling this growth so well.
Absolutely. Sending all the hugs and good vibes, the Big Wave has not even started yet, I think.
Sorry guys, kbin is built on PHP.
So even if it did succeed, it won't be for long.
If history has taught me anything - I would say that means that kbin will persist forever.
I know this is a joke, but not only is KBin built on PHP, but so are Facebook, Pornhub, and Wikipedia.
Just took a look at the stats on The-Federation.info and looks like Lemmy is doing just fine.
Lemmy Stats: 162 Nodes 90,053 Users 277,427 Posts 610,007 Comments
Kbin Stats: 7 Nodes 5,960 Users 3,992 Posts 4,844 Comments
I just noticed the same thing. I do not see a stat that shows kbin is overtaking lemmy.
"Tankie baggage?"
Lemmy devs are tankies.
I keep hearing similar things, but not a single person has linked to a comment or anything the devs have actually said.
Where can I read about this? I want to see what they said.
I don't see much proof there outside of some "this definitely happened" type thing. Not that I don't believe them but that's not the strongest proof.
A couple times a day when I go to kbin they Cloudflare me...kinda irritating. beehaw or Squabbles are down with a VPN dropping by, apparently. Or whatever's at work here.
I tried kbin but it currently slow as hell at least for me. It definitely is more inviting with its design though.
Nice to see the fediverse growing no matter where it is. As long as we can all communicate it doesn't matter what instance or software we're on.
Sidenote: is kbin a fork of lemmy? Or a different codebase entirely?
Despite the tankie stuff I prefer the interface of Lemmy, though I have accounts on both. Love that they federate. Things are happening.
Can I use kbin to read Lemmy content?
Yes. Check out the biggest currently active instance of Kbin, https://fedia.io/ — plenty of stuff from Lemmy instances.
Personally, I'm loyal to Beehaw. I like the culture that it is trying to grow. But I like how I can subscribe to things outside of beehaw as long the instance has federation enabled.
Are you comparing kbin to all of the lemmy fediverse?
Because kbin is part of the fediverse and has as far as I understand been bigger then the biggest lemmy instances for a while by a good margin?
just looked for the first time, I really do prefer kbin's UI to Lemmy's right now at least the default web client. Is there value in running both or just one?
I notice I can see mastadon posts on lemmy as well but how do I find stuff on Kbin or Mastadon from lemmy?