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[–] ram@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Stop doing trials. We've done enough trials and tests and studies to know that UBI works. Just implement it fully. I'm so tired of these half-steps that are poised to look like "progress" when they're already planning on undoing them anyways.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

UBI won't work as long as the capitalist class is in power.

If the UBI improves the lives of people to the point of them declining to take shit jobs, the capitalists will try to dismantle and/or pervert the policy; they will also try to capture as much of its value as possible by increasing prices. The only level of UBI acceptable to capitalists would be one that keeps working people afraid of losing their jobs.

[–] SemioticStandard@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right. There is exactly zero fucking chance that UBI will ever take off in today’s world, especially in the US, where we can’t even get universal healthcare.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's some capitalists in favor of UBI, but they usually mean barely above starvation level and also let's get rid of all other social services whatsoever. Fuck the disabled in particular I guess. Buy your own wheelchair we gave you 500 dollars! What do you mean you need 600 dollars just for rent?

[–] balerion 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't NOT support UBI, but it's not enough.

[–] Steve@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Only 30 people, and just 2 years? That's a very limited study. It's something I guess, but it barely scratches the surface.

Aren't there already a number of larger studies in the world? Who wants another small scale study? Do they think the results may be different?

[–] TheBelgian@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

it's not more UBI but the right to have a roof (not a dormitory) and eating when you are hungry (not Soylent shit) and access to healthcare.

1600 UK? is it a joke?

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