If you want to shake things up with an arch derivative you can try EndeavourOS, there are a lot of different DEs you can choose straight from the installer
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Stick to the main distros unless you have a specific reason to use a novel one. Despite its drawbacks, KUbuntu is great and I definitely recommend it. Once you find a thing or two you don't like about it, you can swap to a distro that does those things differently and you're off to the races :)
PS Linux can breathe new life into a laptop, but if apps are too intense for your hardware it won't magically give you more RAM.. With the exception of Minecraft Prism Launcher + Fabulously Optimized, then your Linuxtop turns into a NASA supercomputer
KDE is surprisingly lightweight these days. Maybe try the Fedora KDE spin. Or if you need it even more light weight: the LXQt spin is also not bad.
One of the Fedora spins, or if you are feeling brave Fedora Silverblue or Fedora Kinoite.
MX Linux.
Imagine Linux Mint Debian edition, but it isn't green and there are a lot of useful GUI tools. It's also so near to actually being Debian that you can just install things meant for Debian on it. It also runs a backported kernel for modern graphics driver and chipset support so you get your stability and your performance all in one.
I'd say give a few Arch-based distros a try, or just straight up Arch if you're feeling adventurous. Arch distros are just slim and speedy, which could be good for your old laptop. The new official archinstall tool makes it relatively easy compared to installing Arch the manual way, but if you're looking for more ease of use EndeavourOS is a great option.
2nd this! EndeavourOS ftw :)
Fedora is a good choice. It is stable while being fairly up to date. The only issue is that (I think) proprietary drivers aren't included by default.
This is true but I've only had issues with Nvidia drivers, which wouldn't impact OP.
But definitely worth a word of caution for anyone else new to Fedora following this thread.
I'm a Linux vet who's been around the block. I've tried all the major distros, used Gentoo for a few years, Arch the same, and a bunch of smaller distros.
Nowadays, I just want my computer to start up and run my programs with as little fuss as humanly possible. I'm far too lazy to rice or optimize anything, and I have little patience to troubleshoot the next big awesome thing.
Consequently, I use Kubuntu with Wayland. It chugs along and does everything I need it to.
Basically the same thing here, but with Fedora Workstation. I had my fun, now I just want to work in peace without having to fiddle with something every few weeks.
Same but with mint. I used arch when it didn't have an install script, now I'm far too lazy for it. I'm not as experienced as other arch users or gentoo users but I could set my arch up no problems. Now I just don't see the point, it's not like my pc can't handle some bloat.
Resources not being used are wasted resources so... may as well use them for quality of life.
If your laptop is on the potato side I would personally avoid kde, it's much lighter now than it used to be but still heavier than other options. Mint looks good in my personal opinion and, again in my opinion, is a better alternative if compared to ubuntu, it's based on it but with some improvements. The default flavor comes with cinnamon, but if your laptop struggles it's also available with xfce, which even older machines should be able to handle.
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I put xfce on a garbage laptop for my parents (who are used to much older windows) and they loved it, the laptop ended up breaking eventually but that was a hardware issue and they regularly ask me when I'll be able to replace it
You canβt go wrong with KDE neon. Highly recommend it. You get all the latest KDE features with the stability of Ubuntu. Lots of Kubuntu users have all migrated already.
Check out Fedora Silverblue.
I really think having a stateless root is the future of computing. Silverblue has a big focus on using Flatpak and containers to cover most use cases.
The only issue is the default Gnome would probably be too heavy for your hardware but (as others have mentioned) you can overlay KDE and use that instead.
Edit: as others have said below check out Kinoite for a Silverblue spin with KDE by default.
I think plain, vanilla, mutable Fedora is still a more solid choice for newcomers, it's just easier to find help with a "regular" distro.
I've been trying uBlue on my daily driver laptop, and so far, the immutability of the system has not really hindered me, but I still think it's not ready for primetime yet.
Or rather go on with Fedora Kinoite (Silverblue but KDE)
Can you explain what is meant by "stateless root"? I can't find a decent answer online.
I switched to silverblue a few months ago and then again a few weeks ago kinoite. I think the immutability and revert updates super easily is great. I think ostree is the future and I'm looking forward too seeing how it matures.
I'm not sure how lightweight Fedora is, but it's currently my favourite distro. The harder choice for me is the desktop environment, I'm currently using KDE, however Gnome looks more modern.
My vote goes to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It's a beautiful system, and the most stable rolling release I've ever had the pleasure of running. I've tried so many different distros, and I always end up coming back to OpenSUSE.
Linux Lite is worth a look, it's designed for old machines as well as folks moving over from Windows.
Edit: Porteus is another good lightweight distro to checkout. It's light enough to run off a USB but can also be installed on the hard disk. It has KDE, Xfce and Cinnamon environment options too.
I think Arch Linux could be for you. You can install it with archinstall script. It's relatively straightforward.
If they want to tinker, but dont want to install arch from scratch, endeavour is the way. If they want their system to just work, they should go with Pop!.
Not sure, as even Manjaro was too complicated for op.
I'm using Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop on a Thinkpad older than yours, and everything works fine for me. I've seen somebody saying that the Xfce edition is slow for them, but maybe the MATE one is lightweight enough for you.
XFCE is usually lighter than MATE, whoever is saying it's slow has done a goofy
I'm using pop os, but it I build a new PC I might switch to fedora or steamos
Part of me wants to use HoloISO (community SteamOS) on a future PC and plug it in to the TV for my partner, but another part of me is Living in hope that official SteamOS 3 will *finally* be released by valve *any day now*
Wouldn't use SteamOS on a PC. It only supports a certain set of hardware, is not really meant to be used on a desktop pc and they don't seem to provide updates that frequently/often. Also installation is not that easy for non-technical users. But feel free to give it a try.
Honestly I don't have a recommendation right now, but if Valve ever gets around to actually releasing SteamOS 3.0 (holo) I'll probably install that.
Yeah, SteamOS is great for gaming, I suppose we'll have to wait for the release of the non Steam Deck version, but you can still have the benefits of Proton on other distros, I really like Fedora, and there's a Fedora fork named Nobara which is gaming oriented, I've never used it but I've heard good things about it.
I'm running Nobara right now on my AMD Thinkpad and it's been great for gaming. Steam, Proton, Lutris and ofc all drivers and codes are already included by default which greatly simplifies install, plus the kernel is already tweaked so there's no need to install a custom kernel.
Not sure it's good as a daily distro: Nitrux. Debian based, QT based DE, waydroid is installed, appimage lover
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Depending on your use any distro would be good for you..if you like KDE maybe you should choose a distro with it but again, depending on your use it might be heavy on your system.different Desktop environments don't really expand your horizons ..different distro do..so if you have already played with Ubuntu maybe you should choose a Red Hat based distro or maybe an Arch based ..both using KDE
Regata OS is a gaming oriented customization of Opensuse Tumbleweed. Iβve been using it for a year without issues.
MX Linux would be my recommendation for older computers. It's Debian-based so it should be fairly familiar if you're used to *buntu-based stuff. Maybe Linux Mint XFCE but I've found it to be verrrry slow on my old Dell Inspiron.
I'm personally using Kubuntu because a lot of programs I like are built for Ubuntu already and while I'm fine with messing with building from source for some things, for most, I like my binaries prebuilt on a distro package service. Also I like KDE Plasma.
Iβve been very fond of KDE Neon as of late! Itβs been solid and has a very pleasant and easily customizable UI. Kubuntu or a Fedora spin with KDE would probably work fine as well.
I've been using Pop!_OS on my desktop for about a year now and haven't had any issues.