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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by serenity@jeremmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
 

The source code was taken down in October after Wikimedia Legal Enforcement team had contacted Codeberg. The instances for Wikiless are still up, and I like using them via Libredirect Why is Wikipedia not going after the Wikiless instances ? And what about these projects ? distributed-wikipedia-mirror Kiwix-Android I find it very useful to have a copy on-line in the browser, so I was thinking of hosting an instance myself, maybe even only in my home LAN.

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[โ€“] miguel@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is Wikipedia not going after the Wikiless instances ?

I don't want to think badly, but everything seems to indicate that wikimedia (the people behind wikipedia) has nothing to do with this: it doesn't make sense, the content of wikipedia is under CC-BY-SA and its source code is GPL v2, supposedly it could be for the logo and name (they are registered trademarks of the foundation) but even so, use an entire legal department to accuse a single person, which does not violate the licenses described above nor is it a commercial project or illicit enrichment; dude, it's just a frontend, not even a full mediawiki fork.

@dessalines@lemmy.ml some times commented on certain practices of the Codeberg staff that went against the status of being a non-profit organization: one of those practices was to ban FOSS projects without apparent explanation that are related to certain areas such as blockchain, torrent, p2p, etc. although these do not violate their code of conduct or are illegal.

I chose Codeberg as my main forge instead of Github and Gitlab (this was the one I used the most) precisely because of their status, in a strict sense they are not "a company" like these two, which theoretically gives you more freedom and more control over your projects.

But seeing this, I'm thinking whether to continue with them or go back to Gitlab or another alternative.

What certainty do I have that they won't ban my projects (personal/professional) with all the work that this entails from one day to the next simply because they don't like them or because of my ideological/political positions?

[โ€“] serenity@jeremmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

@dessalines@lemmy.ml some times commented on certain practices of the Codeberg staff that went against the status of being a non-profit organization: one of those practices was to ban FOSS projects without apparent explanation that are related to certain areas such as blockchain, torrent, p2p, etc. although these do not violate their code of conduct or are illegal.

Oh, interesting. I thought Codeberg was a good choice, I didn't know about this. Is https://sourcehut.org a better choice ? The project lead of that looks smart and opinionated.

[โ€“] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like using wikiless instances too, what does that mean for the future of Wikiles Should we keep using them?

[โ€“] serenity@jeremmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. If people could maybe help the Wikiless coder to migrate the source code to for example a self hosted Gitea instance, then I wonder whether it will be taken down again.

[โ€“] miguel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] JahnBeetTheWif@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

>Why is Wikipedia not going after the Wikiless instances? And what about these projects?

[โ€“] miguel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I didn't see well on my phone.