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[–] Stormcrow@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

GL.iNet router all the way.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

The first thing I do with my isp provided modem is set it to bridge mode.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

why is port forwarding a premium feature? isn't it just a setting on your router

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Bc $$$.

My provider won’t allow it unless I pay them $15/mo extra.

You can change the setting on your router anytime but it won’t work if your ISP doesn’t actually allow it.

[–] w00tsy@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

Likely they don't have enough IPs to go around

[–] s3rvant@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I use Proton VPN which has port forwarding

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 2 points 23 hours ago

Rent a seed box. That's the best solution for everyone.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago

Assuming you mean IPv4 CGNAT: IPv6.

[–] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Does STUN no longer work to allow port-forwarding when needed by P2P applications?

[–] tVxUHF@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We just need to add I2P directly into the client in a way that's transparent to the user and all the problems are solved.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How does the I2P architecture solve the port forwarding issue. Is peer discovery easier within I2P?

[–] ReversalHatchery 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I2P has a mechanism where if you can't open a port, another I2P router can help with NAT hole punching so that you can establish a connection.

In practice this means I2P users can be equally well connected regardless of being able to open a port.

But, unfortunately I2P is very slow. But maybe it's just because there's few people running routers, on slow networks?
In any case, it would be beneficial to have it easily accessible to everyone, so that copyright holders can go pound sand.

Edit: When you couldn't open ports for I2P, the I2P router will have the "Network: Firewalled" status. This is the description of this status on the router dashboard:

Firewalled: Your UDP port appears to be firewalled. As the firewall detection methods are not 100% reliable, this may occasionally be displayed in error. However, if it appears consistently, you should check whether both your external and internal firewalls are open for your port. I2P will work fine when firewalled, there is no reason for concern. When firewalled, the router uses "introducers" to relay inbound connections. However, you will get more participating traffic and help the network if you open your firewall. If you think you have already done so, remember that you may have both a hardware and a software firewall, or be behind an additional, institutional firewall you cannot control. Also, some routers cannot correctly forward both TCP and UDP on a single port, or may have other limitations or bugs that prevent them from passing traffic through to I2P.

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[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Does port forwarding really matter if you have symmetrical fiber?

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Does port forwarding really matter if you have a Holborn 9100?

Does port forwarding really matter if you have Hannah Montana Linux?

Does port forwarding really matter if you have a Dawson's Creek trapper keeper?

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

In principle yes it does - in case of TCP based protocols, without forwarded ports incoming connections aren't possible. In the context of the main Torrent protocol this means you can only connect to peers that have ports forwarded. This is largely solved by uTP protocol that uses UDP hole punching method to circumvent this.

So the sort answer is no this doesn't matter unless you're using very feature poor torrent client.

[–] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Port forwarding allows a connection to reach your fiber in the first place.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 19 hours ago

I see, but there are alternatives, right?

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Do I have a misunderstanding of one of these, because these seem unrelated

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 50 points 2 days ago (10 children)

IPv6. My stupid ISP actually shipped their router with all inbound ipv6 blocked with no way to unblock it, so I set up opnsense. Works like a charm!

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[–] R0gueS4t3llite@infosec.pub 35 points 2 days ago (20 children)

As someone who has recently started seeding as much as I can, this is a great question to which I don't have the answer.

I am not renewing my Proton yearly subscription after it ends due to recent developments. They seem to be the only "big name" VPN with the port forwarding feature. I heard of OpenVPN, but have not had a chance to dig into it too much.

My ISP does not provide IPV6 support, so this will be pretty important to sort out soon.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 27 points 2 days ago

OpenVPN is client/server software for setting up a VPN on your own infrastructure. It's not a third-party service like ProtonVPN.

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bulgaria, Hong Kong, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Netherlands, Russia, Cyprus, Moldova, Romania, Ukraine, Singapore, and Sweden. They all spit in the eye of DMCA.

VPS in any of these countries, or just find a provider that doesn't care about torrenting. If you go the VPS option, run your own VPN and just look for a VPS that allows considerable traffic. A quick example, Ultahost (Netherlands) offers a VPS with unlimited bandwidth for $7/mo if you pay for 3 years in advance. Like sure, now you're paying to torrent, but I would rather pay $7/mo to protect myself with a VPN that I control vs worrying about port forwarding and getting DMCA's in the mail. 🤷‍♂️ I guess it depends on how much skin you want in the game.

[–] ntn888@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

That's exactly what I did. Better yet I routed it though a wireguard tunnel! I documented the process here.

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've never used port forwarding. Everything works fine

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When you are not port forwarding you can only download from users who are actually port forwarding, or am I incorrect?

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

I just said twice that everything works fine as long as "direct" connections can be made. if your torrenting client says that's happening, everything is working fine

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's for downloading, but it you want to upload/seed, then you would need port forwarding.

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yes, seeding works too, with no port forwarding. With mullvad, it just works and with proton I have to enable "moderate NAT" sometimes, but seeding works without port forwarding, it always has

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only because you're seeding to people that have port forwarding active. You can't seed to people that are running the same setup as yourself.

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Port forwarding is a huge vulnerability. With proton it's not as much of a vulnerability, but it still opens a lot of shit that should stay closed

whatever the case is, I'm able to seed without port forwarding

[–] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

What do you think it makes you vulnerable to?

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

You're opening a port in your VPN connection so no there's no "huge vulnerability" (even without a VPN you're only opening a port to your torrent client) and as mentioned, you're only seeding to people who have port forwarding set up. If more people run without it like yourself, the whole system breaks down.

[–] ReversalHatchery 14 points 2 days ago

and for downloading too when no one else has forwarded a port in the swarm

You can still seed to users that do have port forwarding.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

TIL it's not L2P, as in "Learn 2 Peer"

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can someone correct me here.

If I have i2P enabled on my qBittorent client and I start seeding a torrent downloaded from a non-i2P connection.

Does my seed of it allow others to download that torrent through i2P?

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

No, you need to cross seed. A torrent client that allows for this is biglybt. Or you need to manually re upload it on i2p

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