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Mozilla has just deleted the following:

“Does Firefox sell your personal data?”

“Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That’s a promise. "

Source: Lundke journal.

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[–] gon@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OK, Mozilla, I'll use a damn fork, since you insist! WTF...

[–] Jack@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

"never will" "promise"

I do not think these words mean what you think they mean.

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If everybody would as a consequence use Librewolf, Mozilla would be forced to change minds.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The LibreWolf Debian repository was down all of last week. I peeked over at their forum and it looks like the team is really struggling to maintain the project since a key member left. Its struggles to keep up with security updates is why its no longer being recommended by Privacy Guides. I'm trying out Mullvad browser right now to see how it fairs

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Hey can you link me to a source where it shows that privacy guides doesn't recommend it due to security updates slowing down? I cannot find it.

I was going to use mullvad browser instead, however it wants you to use DoH. If you turn it off, you're now fingerprintable. This is rough since i use network filter tools and it'll bypass it if i use doh. So i was gonna try librewolf.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Here's the forum discussion on including Librewolf as a recommended browser:

https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/librewolf-browser-firefox-fork/148

It's quite long as the topic has been open since 2022; all other posts about Librewolf are closed by mods and the discussion is redirected here.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 3 days ago

Thanks. I looked through this and a few threads. It seems like they did lose a key member. But it also seems like they've kept up with Firefox security updates, which is the most important part. It's still concerning though but it seems perfectly fine to use. What do you think?

As for mullvad browser, like i said, I'd use that but unfortunately I can't use DoH which is rhe default in that browser. It will bypass my network filtering.

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

Oh no, that's sad to hear. Society really needs to start doing more clever decisions. A project like Librewolf could be so incredibly useful for most of people. Somehow should find a way to foster those efforts.

[–] stray@pawb.social 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Does LibreWolf not have a mobile client? The ability to sync with my desktop will unfortunately keep me on Firefox, unless I'm just missing it.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

no it doesnt, use fennec, or ironfox.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's about time the community throws its weight behind a hard Firefox fork. Mozilla has been blinded by Google's money for more than a decade consistently doing the bare minimum to stay an alternative.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

they became content from the money.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Yanks gonna yank to be honest

[–] jonesy@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago

I've been using Mozilla since version 1.0, and have gone through the highs and lows. This is the point where I get off, what a shame.

[–] Jerti@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What a shame. I tried waterfox for the first time and I got a good first impression. Will probably switch to it.

[–] IDew@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In December 2019, System1, an advertising (paid notice) company that claims to be focused on privacy, bought Waterfox. In July 2023, Alex Kontos said that Waterfox is an independent and separate project again.

I'm rather unsure about what is truly going on behind the scenes, but my trust in them is far to find...

Source

[–] Jerti@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I appreciate the info. Guess I'll try Librewolf and look into Ironfox.