Privacy

I tried to, but both Vivaldi and Brave had issues I couldn't get over and in the end I decided to have a time out by switching to Firefox ESR with custom policy and autoconfig.

Whatever happens in April will probably take time to land on ESR so I will hopefully have plenty of time to adopt about:config changes or actually switch to another browser.

I don't feel like switching back to LibreWolf, since I already used it ages ago and learnt to make my current setup with upstream Firefox, so it would be kind of pointless and what would I do at Chromium? Three months and ManifestV2 is permanently killed and what extension doesn't say to run better on Firefox? I have been observing at least uBlock Origin (manifest V2), Privacy Badger (v3 in Chrome) and NoScript (also v3) and I think at least GitHub discussions said they all have shortcomings on Chrome.

No

This is probably a good opportunity to promote the Lemmy communitiy for LibreWolf: !librewolf@lemmy.ml

I've tried every now and then but could never switch to firefox fully. It was either big ram usage, slowness, or the inability to handle more than 2 tabs. On android. On pc its just the first 2.

Cromite.

I still don't see Mozilla as a bad actor, especially in comparison with the villany that is google and microsoft. It's still a great alternative for privacy newbies and average users, although I personally made the switch to librewolf (desktop) and iceraven (mobile) a while ago. Both being forks of firefox, development for actual firefox is essential for either of these to survive, so Mozilla still has my support albeit indirectly

I'm mainly trying to work out how to get off windows.

Librewolf. Mozilla will just keep enshittifying their browser. My biggest hope is that chrome is split off from Google and Mozilla loses their funding from google (500M/year). It's way more than they need and they refuse to actually compete with Chrome/Chromium. Instead, they are content being the excuse for Google not to be sued for being a monopoly.

Hopefully the charade will end before Trump leaves office. Either because the US courts force google to split or because the EU finally grows a pair and declares Google and their tech to be a liability. My bet is that a new browser like LadyBird will give Firefox a reason to actually improve, but it'll be too late.

Anti Commercial-AI license

Nope.

Not that I don't think it's a dumb move from Mozilla, but the options right now are:

• Stay with Firefox
• Move to a Firefox-based browser

Especially since I use Mozilla's services I'm sorta in their ecosystem right now. Maybe once I've moved passwords off I can consider moving, but even then on Android the only browser that supports uBlock is Firefox afaik, which makes it my YouTube client of choice.

No, because I haven't used mainline Firefox in years.
I'm pretty happy with LibreWolf on desktop and IronFox (available on Accrescent btw!) on Android (GrapheneOS)

Unfortunately it's still much less secure than Chromium, but I want and need a proper adblocker to maintain my freedom online. And I'm definitely not using Brave...

The only kinda usable Chromium browsers are Ungoogled Chromium and Trivalent. I think I might try building Trivalent on macOS at some point. Maybe also gonna apply some patches from Thorium, as long as they don't compromise security.

Is there anything in the new ToS that's even bad? Like, there are lots of people breathlessly ranting about how privacy is dead because Mozilla mentioned the existence of third parties and gibberish like that, but when I read it myself it mostly seemed like they were just saying that if you use third party services through Firefox then the third parties will have your data. That seems kinda like a nothingburger of a controversy to me. I dunno, I'm not a lawyer, maybe I missed something, but if so I certainly haven't seen anybody else explain it properly.

Not yet, they're still the best option that doesn't use Chromium (I don't count Safari), but Servo is looking pretty promising

Yes.

Short term -- I'll probably be moving to LibreWolf, most likely. I'm planning to spend a good chunk of time this weekend reviewing what exactly their fork does. I've read their self-description already -- and like it -- but I want to look through the code and try to build it myself before I start depending on it.

Long term -- I'll be keeping my eye on Servo and Ladybird.

I'm staying on this side, but probably switching to a fork like Librewolf

I've previously used Floorp which is feature rich but not polished, and same goes for Zen

I honestly have no clue, personally.

I know i have to jump ship, but my choices are either chromium, or a fork of firefox, that may be slow to catch up with security / may not last.

I've got my eyes on librewolf, floorp and zen.

I'm especially watching https://ladybird.org/. A completely independent browser. But the dev has gotten himself in hot water iirc, but anything to get away from google and mozilla, i guess. Also, it's not complete.

We'll see what the future has in stock for us.

Yep. I've switched to Waterfox, but I need a browser for my phone(I run iOS, yes I know), any suggestions?

Coincidentally, I just found out about Floorp yesterday, in no relation to this ToS change, and will take a look at it soon. Keep in mind I haven't looked at all yet, so I have no clue if they have a worse ToS or something.

Well, I have been using Zen, a Firefox fork for the past 6 months, and they have yet to clarify their stance on the ToS update.

Anyway, I don't think I'll change anyway, we need Gecko in the browser engine landscape and I have been so used to Firefox'S UI and flexibility that I have a hard time imagining myself not using a Firefox-based browser.

I'm going to stick to Firefox for the time being at least for the clients where I managed to get Firefox ESR accepted. For everything else, it might be the time to switch to Librewolf. Among other advantages, they have enabled jxl support.

I've been inching towards Gnome Web (WebKit) for a while now. Every time I try using it I last a little longer than last time before I encounter some deal breaking issue and return to Firefox.

In the short term I'm considering sticking to Firefox for work, and using Gnome Web for all other kinds of distractions. I'm writing this in Gnome Web right now, and it's working great. :)

On mobile I'll probably stick to Firefox for a while. So they will still have all my data, and if I have to choose between Mozilla and Google it will still be Mozilla. But my god I wish they would stop acting like idiots.

On PC, I will look into switching to a fork. Not sure what to do on my phone