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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 10 points 16 hours ago

Pretty much. Last time they wore pussyhats, playing "Roar" really loud is a radical act for them.

[–] NoMadLadNZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jeezus, they need to only have people under the age of 50 to revitalize any messaging. An anthem from a washed up pop star celeb is not going to do shit. Celebs are a turn off. The election not 3 months ago proved that.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NoMadLadNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 hours ago

ahhh shit... lol

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Genuinely curious what people want the Democrats to specifically do right now, apart from vague calls of "something" and "more" and "better." At least on a federal level, aren't they pretty much powerless at this point? What even can they do?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • Vote no on everything like Republicans did when Obama/Biden tried good things
  • Filibuster every bill like Republicans
  • Give motivated members of Congress more power, like AOC
  • Retire the old blood of the DNC and have people with ideas from after 1982 enter office (my state allows office vacancies to be filled by appointment until election)
  • Listen to the Americans who voted for you to stop Trump and stop whining about that in private meetings
  • Stop voting yes on anything Trump wants
  • Don't ratfuck young faces because they are running in seats with old people
  • Don't say everything is okay and normal despite the fact it's clearly not, it didn't work both times they ran on it as a platform
[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

All great ideas. Have you mentioned them to the Democrats? They are depressingly poll-driven, but it's probably worth directly reaching out. My local congress people are probably sick of my shit by now, but if so -- good.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Well since they think a mean worded tweet is all you need to stop Trump, I figured a mean worded comment is just as good /s

[–] JillyB 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My interpretation: the right is broadly successful because they are presenting a compelling narrative to explain the problems in America. It's "elites" in business, government (deep state), and schools that are pushing an unamerican agenda of "wokeness", using immigrants to gain power, and indoctrinating through schools and universities. This is enough to get people to vote right because at least the right is doing something to address their concerns.

What the Democrats need to do, is present a more compelling narrative. They can't just be the "non-maga" party. They have to actually address people's concerns about economic insecurity and present a vision for the future. I remain convinced that the first president that runs on economic populism will sweep an election.

[–] LoamImprovement 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I remember in 2016 when the Hillary campaign's response to "Make America Great Again" was "America is Already Great" and man did that go over like a lead balloon. Democrats fucking love to pretend everything is okay.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And then Harris did the same and wondered why she lost.

"Everything is okay! Sure you can't afford food, rent, housing, the government spends more on wars than social services, but I might give those with millions a few hundred thousand to buy a house! And I'll appoint a Republican to my cabinet!"

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want Dems to start arming the working class. Like, empty the campaign coffers, and use it to buy guns, bullets, and butter for the working class.

How's that for a start?

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago

It's certainly specific!

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Obstruct fucking everything instead of being the complicit bastards they are.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. Figure out what they stand for, stated in two sentences. (From that old chestnut that says that you don't understand a thing if you can't explain it in two sentences, or less.)

  2. Learn from the experts (PR people, psychologists, neuroscientists, screenwriters, etc.) how to state it in ways that resonate with people.

  3. Then, do it. Convince all of us that they care, and are trying. Build coalitions around the message, and strengthen civil society.

The greatest damage from this administration's lawlessness does not come from tearing down government agencies, it's the corrosive effect of hopelessness in the minds and hearts of the citizens as we look around and feel like we're alone, and that nobody else actually cares about our laws, traditions, and principles.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not lining up to bend over for republicans would be nice a nice start. Even a quarter the obstructionism as the republican party has put forth when Democrats are in charge would be appreciated.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Certainly, but like -- what specifically? If you could pick one specific thing they should do/have done, what would it be?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not vote "Yes" on appointments.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

For the most part they haven't; and with the votes available, not a single nominee was in danger of being voted down even when all Democrats voted against them. Pete Hegseth received 0 Democratic votes and still got confirmed.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Speak up, speak loud and speak often. Be the leaders of the grassroots organization they pretend to represent.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They seem to be incessantly tweeting and Facebooking, but people are complaining that that's not very effective.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because shitposting isn't organizing.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Organising what? What should they organise?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Workers strikes, general strikes, work stoppages and walk outs ... organize people to conduct mass disruptive activities in a peaceful obstructive way to force those in power to either move against them or take steps back to accommodate people.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

"But my [insert excuse not to go out and protest]..."

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago

They could reach out to Sean O'Brien.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It seemed to work for MAGA. Maybe the Democrats need more bot accounts? Shittier shitposts, maybe?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Project 2025 wasn't a tweet.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

It's also not why people voted for Trump. He had to consistently lie about supporting it so as not to scare off his potential voters. Meanwhile, a deliberately misleading viral shitstorm made out of a single Biden comment had MAGAts rolling up to their polling places in trash bags.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

The next real test will probably be the budget vote in the House. Post-Trump Republicans have historically been unable to pass budgets without democrat help, even when they had a majority, so one thing democrats can do is squeeze the GOP dry for concessions before helping them pass the next budget.

[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

step one should be a change of leadership.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agreed. Can anyone think of somebody the Progressive wing and the mega-donors can agree on?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mega donors can't eat their money. The working class WILL get behind a strike, if they see support from the electeds.

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What will the working class eat while they aren't getting paid during the strike?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

We already produce the food.... oligarchs don't.

We can seize the means of production.

[–] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Voting against literally any of the trump cabinet nominees would have been a start

[–] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most of the votes cast by Democrats were against Trump's cabinet picks. (Not that it mattered, but I'll never know how the fuck Marco Rubio pulled so many Democrats 🤦‍♀️ .)

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Because Dems are complicit, that's why.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago

I hate that fucking song so much.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

They’re preparing a stockpile of spears and chainmail so they can rule uncontested over whatever is left of America by the end of the year.

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe the democrats need a media apparatus to propagandize people against whatever the republicans want to do 🙄

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh, so they've finally decided to do anything at all? I wish this wasn't the Onion, because I'm really starting to think the democrats got what they wanted when he was elected.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I assume this is a new/newer song? I am not sure I've heard it, and if so, I certainly didn't know it was Katy Perry's "Roar".

[–] expr@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

It came out in 2013, so no, not new at all. It was an incredibly popular song, with over a billion listens on Spotify.