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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 64 points 1 month ago

I confirm that I'm never going to buy it then.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 month ago

I'll buy it when it comes to GOG then.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The game wasn't even profitable after a year as a result of not being on Steam, according to the article. Pretty interesting

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

I guess they don't want it to be profitable then. Maybe over the next 10 years it will break even on Epic.

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Epic profittability is on Fortnite; there will be lot of skin based on Alan Wake franchise and, also, Fortnite ads everytime you launch AW2 form their launcher etc.

...as for Alan Wake franchise itself, well it goes in the epic games store marketing black hole

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 27 points 1 month ago

That's okay, since I am never coming to Epic Games. Seems only fair.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is the bullshit that makes me hate Epic games. I want Fortnite to die already so Tim Sweeney can eff right off.

A exclusive war only one person is waging...

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 25 points 1 month ago

Shame, I'm never buying a game from the Epic Store.

Oh well.

[–] ErsatzCoalButter 20 points 1 month ago

mfw i don't pay them money

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

Sucks for Remedy then, since they won't be getting my money.

[–] Rakenclaw@fedia.io 15 points 1 month ago

Oh well, there are other games to buy.

[–] hexorg@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

That’s what they said about red dead redemption too

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Damn, and I was just about to break my "have never played Alan wake" streak...

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Hopium take 1:
There's no reason they'd reveal their plans to bring it to steam early and cannibalize on the epic store sales

Hopium take 2:
Even if they don't have plans right now if they ever want some quick money to meet targets or something it's the prime candidate

Hopium take 3:
When or if remedy starts making money (like from control 2) they might buy the publishing rights back

Hopium take 4:
It'll run better anyways when Alan wake 2 remastered comes out in 10 years

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Guess I'll never get it then.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

I guess I'll just wait till you dipshits give it to me for free or I'll pirate it if I ever get the urge to play it.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Laughs in Heroic Launcher

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn shame the decision Remedy made to get the funding from Epic looks like it has backfired (since as I understand it AW2 still hasn't turned a profit). I truly hope this doesn't affect their upcoming games as Alan Wake 2 is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had and I want for nothing more than Remedy to keep doing what they're doing.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

It's unfortunate, but if you're developing a game and are in dire need of cash, Epic is your best bet.

Way before the whole store debacle, Epic also had a lot of grants and stuff, but those didn't require you to give up publishing rights IIRC. Honestly, the EGS greed aside, they've been excellent for the gaming industry.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

Here's the thing about CEOs: they're beholden to a board of people who like money

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

🏴‍☠️

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Why do people love Steam's DRM on everything, online only gameplay? Why do people love Steams totalitarian control and extortion deals?

If people could built their own Steam client, it wouldn't be so bad. I use Heroic on Windows for both Epic and GOG and get new games through Heroic so there can't be telemetry or data gathering. Why won't Valve allow a libre/free software Steam client to play games and let go of what people choose to install on their computer. I'm nit asking for DRM-free games, I'm asking ti stop dictator how I am allowed to play games.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because Steam's DRM is entirely unobtrusive, it doesn't require online-only gameplay and the customer experience is excellent.

When Epic tries to compete with Steam they don't look to make a better user experience, instead they bribe developers for exclusivity deals to force people on their platform if they want to play a game on release.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 month ago

You are stating stricty your own opinion when you say "customer experience is excellent". Read the documents of the legal case against Valve, the documents show Valve to be an extortionist.

[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I left steam. Only interested in offline installers from GOG.. When WWIII hits and players are still reliant on Steam's Online DRM Leased versions of your games, like come on already!.. No Internet,no games.. I'm burning all these games onto M-Disc media.. I can sell games for bullets and food in the apocalypse!! Woo!

[–] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

sweeney is that you?

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

There is a weird cult around steam, they literally can't do wrong, and even if they do, well it was deserved. Dunno how that happened but it really does hurt me when games on gog aren't updated for months for no reason but steam.

[–] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

you're just going to interpret this is as proving you right and me as a cultist but the thing about no updates on gog is nothing to do with steam that's the publisher steam doesn't make them do that there's no reason it's the publisher/developers I don't think valve can do no wrong but I would say steams never done anything bad to me valve includes gambling in all their multiplayer games that are full of children they were one of the earliest companies to make loot boxes their business model though arguably even worse as they gave all the tools for an external economy for those skins and gave the crates out abundantly to encourage you to buy the keys because you already have the crate but the steam division in valve has provided me with a consistently great experience in every way games on there own launcher almost always just work on linux refunds are trivial family sharing is great for making it even cheaper I don't like drm and I'd use gog more if they didn't kinda suck from a user perspective but even with heroic playing games on gog is a little jank on linux in a way it just isn't with steam and gog has literally no family sharing I don't play games from the shared library much but I like having it when I do and my siblings actually do play some games from my library a fair bit steam/valve is a company like any others that ultimately cares about profit not me or any other customer but unlike other companies they understand the value of long term thinking and good customer relationships they don't care about me but they know I'm more likely to keep coming back and buying loads of games if they don't keep trying to screw me over and add lots of good features that save me money and make my experience better

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There were a few games that explained slow updates with "just download them on steam" when asked, ofc it's not on steam that publishers are lazy. Publishers are lazy because steam has such an overwhelming majority that they can ignore customers on other platforms. I do prefer gog because they are drm free and offline, so in the inevitable crash of global internet i will have my oldie games, lol.

[–] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

that's still the publisher not steam and honestly a bit gog that they let them get away with that you can't blame steam and customers largely using the better platform for awful publishers scamming people on a different platform

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 month ago

A blind fanatical devotion to Steam/Valve.

As a sound, allow people to develop a libre/open source client to play games from that client, there would be a different perception.

[–] LoamImprovement 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't love Steam's DRM at all, but theirs is the least obtrusive platform, and Gabe demonstrably understands that, and I quote the man himself, "Piracy is almost always a service problem, and not a pricing problem."

Admittedly I'm not happy about the near-monopoly they have on the PC gaming market, particularly because it'll be a sad day indeed if Valve ever goes public and starts pulling scummy moves like Epic, among other platforms. But I'm happy to spend money with a business that treats its employees and customers like people and not untapped resources.

[–] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 month ago

Piracy is because of price.

Read the documents from the court case against Valve, such as their email communication. Valve got to this level by extortion and bullying.

I do not buy games through Steam store, I will never buy a game directly from Valve.

[–] Kaldo@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

It's a good game and it wouldn't have been made if it werent for epic games fronting the cost. Step beyond the silly platform tribalism and just enjoy the game that was made with love and vision while supporting the devs and the choices they made. Or dont, w/e, I'm personally glad I got it there since the devs got a bigger cut than they'd get on steam anyway.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

So, what’s the over-under on when it’ll show up on Gamepass?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 month ago

I hope someone Remedies this situation.

[–] ControllerCat@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

This kind of thing happened with "American Nightmare" and "Quantum Break". While I'm not aware of any formal policy that Remedy has, I suspect this happens because they're a smaller shop trying to leverage whatever they can.