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With the progressive “resistance” quiet ahead of Donald Trump’s second term, congressional Democrats are making their own shift: They’re turning away from past portrayals of Trump as a human wrecking ball and toward more potential collaboration.

After ignoring a Republican crackdown on undocumented immigration for months last year, Senate Democrats holstered their filibuster power on Thursday and prepared to work on the bill — which Trump could end up signing into law thanks to their support. Democrats are currently debating whether to also advance a GOP plan to debate sanctions on the International Criminal Court for targeting Israeli leaders with arrest warrants.

On top of that, several Democrats met this week with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

There is no hope for saving the Dems. They will embrace the Bushes and now Trump before ever caring about progressive voices.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Regardless of whether you agree with any specific policy position they hold, working with Republicans in this next legislative session is the only way Democrats will be able to influence federal policy. The alternative is bill after bill with only Republican input. I have no problem with the Democrats having input on legislation.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

And what input do you think they will have that the Republicans would agree with? Maybe a rider to give Israel a few more billion? Shoot some people at the border? Bail out a multinational?

Where do you see this bipartisanship leading? Because it won’t be to anything leftist or progressive.

Collaboration with fascists is a bad thing.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I see lots of money changing hands. Think about it, all the hidden and semi legal scams can now be done in the open.

Democrats should be thanking their gop colleagues more

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They go center when the voters go right.

A protest non-vote doesn't move policy.

People who always vote for a Republicans or Democrats eventually get what they want. Blaming either of the parties for following the will of those who actual vote is childish.

Hating the democrats will not get you more progressive policy, no mater how much youthful exuberance you have.

Hopefully one day, you'll realize it's not your ball so you can't take home with you. You can only play the game that everyone else is playing or sit on the sidelines and fantasize.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I say fuck them and fuck their ball. The whole shit is about to burn down.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Doubt.

Every generation thinks they're going to change the dynamic and it never happens because the system is rigged.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago

I'm looking at this (global) development of fascism rising to power and the centrist establishment treating it as business as usual, and I'm fucking scared.
We're playing out exactly the playbook that lead to the nazi regime, but this time around there are no good guys left to save the day.

Where the fuck could persecuted people flee today?

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 5 points 5 days ago

Dem's donors are telling them to stand down because they think Trump will be good for business (cutting taxes, eliminating antitrust enforcement, cutting back consumer protection and workers rights, etc).