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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, the whole not born here thing suddenly doesn’t apply?

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t think that matters for speaker of the house? It does matter for president and vp

[–] Hirom 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The speaker of the house is in the presidential line of succession, right after the VP. So that's a fair question. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

[–] Malgas 7 points 1 month ago

Secretary of State is #4, and that didn't stop Madeline Albright from holding that position during the Clinton years. I believe the accepted solution is that the succession just skips over anyone who is ineligible.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I’m aware of that, I’m not aware that they’re required to be American born, it would be an interesting constitutional question if the president and VP died and the speaker of the house wasn’t American born.

Edit - looking into it further, I don’t see the same qualifications being required as president and vp. For example, one only has to be 25 and up to be speaker of the house, yet one has to be 35 for president or vp. So again, I wonder if they elected a 25 year old as speaker and then a plane crashed with the president and vp on board (not possible they don’t fly together but let’s play pretend) I wonder if the speaker would be promoted to president to maintain continuity of government or if they’d be passed over to whoever’s fourth in line that meets qualifications.

[–] puttputt 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They would just be removed from the line up succession. We've had cabinet members who were ineligible for the presidency, and they were just not considered as in the line of succession, even though they otherwise would be.

Edit: here's the text of the Presidential Succession Act of 1947

(b) If, at the time when under subsection (a) a Speaker is to begin the discharge of the powers and duties of the office of President, there is no Speaker, or the Speaker fails to qualify as Acting President, then the President pro tempore of the Senate shall, upon his resignation as President pro tempore and as Senator, act as President.

Note that it explicitly mentions the Speaker failing to qualify for the presidency

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

That sounds most realistic.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 weeks ago

But is Elon Musk not already President of the United States? POTUS Elon Musk? President Musk? Isn't he? Isn't Trump just the secretary of making long faces?

[–] apotheotic 2 points 4 weeks ago

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

that's some "woke" agenda there if I had to use the same term they made.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago

Trump found his Beria