That's a great example of a toxic redditor coming to the fediverse hoping people would tolerate his behaviour, but surprise surprise:
we don't
...and gets banned lol.
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They didn't even get banned (except from SJW, but that's only one instance), I think they just deleted their account
A community dedicated to getting mad at people will quickly become just as toxic, if not more so.
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How is this post relevant to this community? You posted it here because you're a moderator so you know it won't be removed?
Dunking on someone who was (rightfully) banned isn't the kind of post that fosters good community interactions. The moderation system works, that's great. Can we not give more oxygen to the troll's commentary?
As I stated on the OP
Not sure where to post this, but I guess this can be seen as “growing the nice atmosphere of Lemmy”
I was also suggesting to maybe open another community for this kind of reports, so that fit indeed the purpose of Fedigrow.
Dunking on someone who was (rightfully) banned The moderation system works, that’s great. Can we not give more oxygen to the troll’s commentary?
In this case, it doesn't seem like they were banned, just that they deleted their account. Not 100% sure as Mbin interface might look different from Lemmy (where "banned" is visible when someone is banned).
So it's not sure that it was the moderation system that worked in this case, more the modlog.
In any case, this post can be used as an evidence when people as "how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit", which is a question that comes up quite once in a while: https://feddit.org/post/4920887/3235141
As much as I do enjoy the Fediverse, I feel as if the intent of this post was more about dunking on an admittedly bad-faith user to show off how cool we are, and not the bit about growing the nice atmosphere of Lemmy. Although to be fair I'm not sure I understand what you mean by
I guess this can be seen as “growing the nice atmosphere of Lemmy”
so I could be wrong. Would you mind elaborating?
I feel it would have been better to just let this guy get banned and forget about it, or to start a post with the title being along the lines of
how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit
instead of what we have, which summarizes the specific actions of the user who deleted their account.
I am glad a toxic user was banned, no sympathy there, but I feel as this thread is a "Lemmy good Reddit and Redditors bad" party and it was started with this intent, with the thing about modlogs being cool being tacked on after the fact to try to legitimize the post. Yes, I prefer Lemmy to Reddit, but I'd rather keep Fedigrow a nice mature space about how to grow our numbers instead of a place to dunk on the larger, competing site. Maybe !reddit@lemmy.world would have been more appropriate space.
I came from the Reddit migration too, and back when I was on Reddit there were some pretty nice people over there. There were some awful people too but you get that with every population. Let us not do the whole "Lemmy cool kids, Reddit all neckbeards!" crap, please.
Thank you for your comment.
so I could be wrong. Would you mind elaborating?
The idea would be indeed to create a community that allows to call out toxic and troll users such as the one in the OP. That community would allow to make Lemmy a better place, in the same way than !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com allows to reduce the power tripping mods.
how does a public modlog make Lemmy better than Reddit
I'll edit the title with something along those lines.
Let us not do the whole “Lemmy cool kids, Reddit all neckbeards!” crap, please.
I see. That's definitely not the intent, I'll make sure to rephrase the title and post accordingly.
I never participated in callout communities myself, so I'm not sure how effective they are. As an outsider looking in, who has never personally dealt with a toxic user or mod before, it seems like a drama farm. If callout communities actually work as intended, though, or at least successfully warn people about genuinely problematic users/mods (instead of just being a tool to gain public support against civil, behaving users you do not like/a mod who justifiably banned you), then I suppose it's worth creating.
It also allows to suggest alternatives. !world@quokk.au definitely took off after a few reports about !world@lemmy.world
Similarly, the .ml communities being less active thn the other instances version nowadays probably comes from post like https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
Just updated the title and the body post, let me know what you think
Edit: hopefully the edits federate, if not: https://feddit.org/post/5768311
Feels much better, thank you!
Thank you!
Maybe !fediverselore@lemmy.ca is a good place to post this.
Could be, but I also thinking about a specific community to call out bad faith users or trolls. Kind of !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com but for users
Who would moderate it without an inherent bias?
Very good question.
The problem is, you only would see the content that was removed. It is also extremely one sided. The modlog isn't what it was, and now they have removed legitimacy from it by removing the names of the mods and admins who did the enforcement, even though it was already relatively easy and straightforward to create a moderation alt. So you don't get the visibility of any moderator abuse either. There's also the fact that moderators and admins do lie.
A community dedicated to calling out power tripping mods exists because it affects everybody and there is no moderator of moderator decisions, save for admins who, if not part of the problem also have other problems to deal with. There is no power tripping user because users basically have no power. The counter to yepowertrippingbastards for users already exists, it's called being a moderator, and they get to "post" about it in a modlog where their and only their word gets posted, where they are allowed to do it anonymously under the cover of seeming but not actual unanimity, and where users don't get a chance to tell their side of the story. Mods also have their own internal groups to address concerns of problem users.
Having a public community about it both makes those moderators who participate seem even more insecure and would also be a source of drama as they try to create a new version of the modlog in community form while finding out communities are not homogeneous.
Should we consider having a similar community for toxic users?
I think that it's a bad idea because that community would become a pitchfork emporium. Users posting there would be a textbook example of users that we shouldn't want in the Fediverse: whiny, entitled, assumptive, passive aggressive. It's how the cookie crumbles with this sort of meta-community.
To avoid that, you'd need to restrict the scope and make it objective, like !yepowertrippinbastards does - that comm is only about mods/admins acting as such and abusing their power.
Good point
I don't want to come off all self-righteous as in "PieFed has that already"... but OTOH it's relevant that, yeah, PieFed has something for that already.😄 It is described at https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/, and I think its way too sensitive atm, labeling users of comics in particular as potentially troublesome bc they post more than comment, but anyway it seems relevant here as an attempt to do what you are saying: to allow for some measure of an account's "reputation" across the Fediverse, similar to what those aforementioned communities do irt mods to let people know about stuff that they may find pertinent as they make decisions about what to do about it - like not post to certain communities and instead help others grow. In short it's a tool that helps shorten the learning curve rather than make each person have to do all that work all entirely on their own.
So someone downvotes twice as often as they upvote?
Someone has twice as many heavily-downvoted comments as positive or neutral? Also a paddling. It also helps provide additional choices beyond merely a moderator's power to "remove vs. allow" - one day a user could perhaps make their own thresholds, or like automatically collapse (to deemphasize, but while still retaining) a comment from such a user. Or not - I have some of that turned OFF at PieFed, but it's awesome that it's there if someone were to want that.
Someone has a brand-new account merely hours old? That's NOT a paddling, but it is worth its own unique icon to let recipients know that they are dealing with a newborn (ofc they could be an alt) who may not realize how the Fediverse works.
So someone downvotes twice as often as they upvote?
What's wrong with that? I find it much easier to downvote than to upvote, but most threads or comments I don't vote at all. It's like me reviewing my Steam games. I barely ever do it, but usually I do negative reviews, because you see all what is wrong in a game and want to voice your frustration about it.
Just in general, it's considered more polite Netiquete to make a comment explaining why the content was not deemed acceptable to you - enough to downvote it rather than simply scroll downwards, the latter of which costs you nothing.
As for why: how would you feel in return if like 50 people simply downvoted your comment here, while offering zero explanation about why they did that?
Anyway, it's just a label, much like a new account gets a label until it's not new anymore. What people DO with the label is up to them - perhaps they'll skip over everything you say, but more likely they'll simply ignore it (that's what I do:-P). What we do is up to us, but how people choose to receive it is up to them...
Just in general, it's considered more polite Netiquete to make a comment explaining why the content was not deemed acceptable to you
Well, that's usually where I clash with people, because I add a comment a lot of the times under a comment or thread that I downvote. It's a bit of a juxtaposition when you're faced with repercussions for not agreeing with the "hivemind" or bubble or whatever.
As for why: how would you feel in return if like 50 people simply downvoted your comment here, while offering zero explanation about why they did that?
This already happens every day to week depending on the news cycle and what weird shit people here are cheering for next. As for how I feel? I don't really care, or rather at this point, knowing this platform, I just feel justified when a comment calling out things like Hamas cock sucking getting downvoted, because I know full well that its all the people who feel addressed by that comment.
And to draw a parallel to the modlog, as a user, you don't even know what happens to your comments or bans, unless you specifically look for it, and even then you can't tell why things happened as they happened.
It's a bit of a juxtaposition when you're faced with repercussions for not agreeing with the "hivemind" or bubble or whatever.
Believe me, I KNOW that feeling - I have made posts that are among some of the most heavily-downvoted in an entire community's history:-).
Yeah in that case, downvoting AND commenting is fine. I didn't want to be too long-winded (although I did type up a MUCH longer reply, but then I deleted it all in favor of the above simplicity:-), but definitely there are cases where downvoting is appropriate: e.g. what about polls that say like "upvote if you agree, downvote if you disagree" - voting is mere participation there, not a sign of unfriendliness? And in Reddit there were certain communities where the voting metrics were SUPPOSED to be flipped from the norm.
In general many downvotes means that you might not be a "fit" for what the community is trying to do? I dunno.
because I know full well that its all the people who feel addressed by that comment.
Not necessarily - some people may even agree with you, but not like the language (especially more puritanical folks), or some may prioritize the process over content, like react to your tone over your statement, or whatever.
as a user, you don't even know what happens to your comments or bans, unless you specifically look for it
But that's what I am trying to tell you: perhaps it is that way on Mbin, but it has not been that way for people on Lemmy for months now. Well, tbf it is for those on Lemmy.World that is still running 0.19.3. This information is now ONE SINGLE CLICK AWAY when you are at the comment. I'll try to see if I can dig up an example, though it will come from one of my Lemmy alts.
Anyway, do as you want, I guess I was saying that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar, but I don't want to actually tell you what to do, just provide that as a thought so that you don't feel so powerless: YOU can control what OTHERS think, to some degree, by altering HOW you state something. It's a thought to consider anyway (e.g., did I just encourage you to think that, by stating it like that?:-).
But that's what I am trying to tell you: perhaps it is that way on Mbin, but it has not been that way for people on Lemmy for months now.
So you get a notification now if a comment of yours gets removed, or if you get banned in a community?
do as you want, I guess I was saying that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar,
It's not like I can't be nice. I am nice the majority of times. If I'm not, it's usually because of the comment I'm replying to. I'm not gonna kiss people's ass if they hold disgusting opinions and I won't stop speaking out against that either. If that makes me unpopular here, so be it. I just wish there was more things on here that wasn't this political extremism so that I could spend more time on that instead.
As for altering peoples opinions... I don't see the point anymore. I tried this for many years. Now that we're almost certainly going to face a climate collapse and all its repercussions for humanity I really don't see the point. Extremism will rise even further with all the challenges that will arise in the near future. Me wasting time and energy on trying to get people to be nicer on some fringe internet platform is not going to change that.
I'm still trying to figure out the other comment - I wrote out a long one but it won't let me send it, and anyway people don't want to read that much. So just responding to this one here:
DON'T do that. You are better than this. Nobody "makes" you do anything.
Also, you lead by example, not by arguing at people.
A few days ago I took a break from social media. It was... much more difficult than I expected, even for just one day. That dopamine addiction is real yo. Be careful. When I say that you might want to take a break, I don't mean that bc I actively want to shame you or whatever, but bc I legitimately think it may help. When you return, you will have a different focus - it will be fun again. Make sure to do something else in the meantime, like read books, touch grass, converse more with people irl. You won't regret it - at least, I never do whenever I've tried. Use social media - don't let it use you.
Example: being at the post you want to look up (you can still search the modlog the old way too, though this is a new short-cut), click the hamburger menu and you can see either the user's or the individual post's full moderation history:
and then this is the result for that one, so note that it's the full history, not just the latest action or current status whatever:
So I mean, yeah, you do have to click once if you are interested, but you don't have to do all the convoluted filtering in order to find it, as you used to.
Here's a second example for you - you see that it is removed, and let's say that you desire to know why:
I guess it's 2 clicks b/c first the hamburger menu, then scroll to the last option, but after those 2 clicks, here's what you see - the answer that you wanted to know!?:
I don't know the rules of that community, but the mod claims that you violated multiple of them, plus used abusive language in particular - e.g. not stating "I disagree with your thoughts" but calling someone "a dumb baby" specifically.
Again, you can do whatever you want... but so too can mods, and that's a tough thing that they have to do btw, to enforce the rules that their community wants and demands that someone do for them. Start up your own community if you wish, and then you can be your own mod, but then people will end up disagreeing with you and you will experience first-hand what it is like to be in that moderator position: it is not always, nor even usually, fun - it's WORK, and most people (the kind with a conscience) feel that it's a heavy burden (though some do abuse their role, I definitely concede that point as well).
Lemmy is worse than reddit though. Especially if you don't block .ml.
Though they have predictably gotten quieter now that the election is over.
Which is worse depends a lot on how much you weight each of their flaws. Personally I think that Lemmy still behaves better than Reddit, even considering that Lemmy behaviour is getting worse over time.
So, focusing solely on aspects where Lemmy is worse than Reddit, IMO:
- witch hunting
- intrusive soapboxing
- bossing others around with uncalled advice
I'm kind of upset that this 'toxic' person came from the same instance as I'm using. Most people I encounter on the local pages aren't bad folks.
Usually kbin.melroy.org users are nice indeed
I think its not a great idea.
Mods are like politicians, they need to be held accountable. Users are like the citizens/residents, if someone did something wrong, there should be judgement by the "court system" or in case of an online forum, judged by moderators. A civillian not involved in politics (aka: doing forum moderation) shouldn't face as much scrutiny as a politician.
We protest when politicians do bad things. But we don't form a mob and go to a civillian's house to harass them when they do bad things, that just brings the pitfork mob mentality. A user who isn't doing moderation shouldn't have to face a mob, such a community is just gonna become a place to harass users.
TLDR: Moderators should face more scrutiny than users. Users shouldn't have to face a mob's judgement everytime whenever there's perceived wrongdoing.
oh i recently had an interaction with this person. i genuinely felt they needed to go outside
I complain about the same thing, actually, and get accused of the same thing. I don't know whether this was true for the person in this example, but the modlog severely lacks context, which is what I'm confronted with as I clash heavily with the extremists on this platform who constantly advocate for murder, mob rule, and genocide, or them simping for terrorist groups like Hamas.
Same thing happened on Reddit, just opposite spectrum, like them refusing to remove Nazi content, calls for genocide and violence against brown people & muslims. Lemmy has basically the same issue as Reddit, where power tripping mods are in full control of the narrative, and the modlog helps them because they can just scrub the evidence and then claim ridiculous removal or ban reasons. I got recently accused by another user for being a political troll like Linkerbaan (if you don't know, some Nazi shithead troll with the dumbest takes), even though mine and his reputation points (mbin) were literally polar opposites, since he was easily identifiable as a negative karma troll (something Reddit unfortunately made harder by capping their karma system at -100). All just because I have a firm principled stance against extremism. Their alleged proof was the modlog of my account, by directly comparing it to his. His account was older, but he also only had like 90 or so comments, while I'm at like 4700 and also tend to participate in politically loaded topics.
db0's community is laughable as well, because db0 himself is doing mod abuse and partially responsible for how my modlog looks like, since he's controlling so many communities (good old powermods, another issue imported from Reddit). He's accusing me of painting all leftist (which ironically would include myself) as terrorists or whatever. First example: 
I confronted him later where he tried to blame other mods, then other instance admins: https://
A while ago I got banned on various communities that db0 moderates, for the same alleged accusation / spin, just because I said that the same people who glorify the murder of that asshole CEO, who now call for more killing, are the same people who also suck Hamas dick.
Maybe you don't like my choice of words for those people, but that does not make me a troll. And just because the majority on this platform seemingly seems to swim in this extremist direction, does not mean I have to join that mindset too, just to fit in.
TLDR: This platform lacks nuance, just like Reddit. Probably worse than Reddit.
But can't you see how you are hurting the cause that you are advocating for by using such language? I don't believe that you are a troll, yet you are using language that is troll-adjacent. I will give some examples.
This platform lacks nuance
Agreed.
, just like Reddit.
Less so I would argue, b/c the modlog does not "scrub the evidence" so much as it preserves it for those who want to see it. BTW being on Mbin you may not know, but a recent Lemmy update allowed people to click on the hamburger menu (3 ellipses) and see the entire modlog history for a particular comment - e.g. if it were removed, then unremoved, then removed again, etc. It's less difficult now than ever before to see EXACTLY what happened to a particular piece of content (again, on Lemmy, I doubt this works on Mbin).
Probably worse than Reddit.
This is hyperbole, emotional "feels like" hurt words, which you offered no actual evidence in support of, plus above I've just shown how it seems to many of us that the opposite is true? Yet you did not seem aware of those facts, so how are we to interpret your statements then - that Mbin is worse than Reddit, but that Lemmy can still be better? Note we can't speak to the entire "Fediverse" unless we also have experience with Mastodon, which I for one do not.
And there are so, SO MANY additional examples like that - e.g. I very much doubt that db0 literally "suck Hamas dick" (I mean even if he were to swing that way and thereby have the motive, the chances for that opportunity seem somewhat slim, on a global scale:-P).
You can do whatever you want. But so too can others? And yeah, many people aren't going to like your words. Maybe don't be so surprised then when they act on what they like/don't like in their own community, which they created and expend all of the effort to moderate? Instead, create your own, and then feel free to use whatever toxic words you you like inside of it. Although people can choose to defederate from it, so don't be surprised if they do - you do not get to tell others what to do.
Edit: lolz I misspelled hamberger:-P
But can't you see how you are hurting the cause that you are advocating for by using such language? I don't believe that you are a troll, yet you are using language that is troll-adjacent.
I'm not sure how that example makes me sound like a troll? Both platforms are very extremistic and safespace forming. Both platforms will get you downvoted for disagreeing with a highly polarized / extremist viewpoint. I can see how my language used can rub people the wrong way, but it's specifically targeted towards the people I'm addressing. I know especially Americans are very sensitive about swear words, but that's not something I feel like I have to cater towards. I'm not gonna censor bad words just so someone feels less riled up, while the meaning behind it does not even change in any way.
Less so I would argue, b/c the modlog does not "scrub the evidence" so much as it preserves it for those who want to see it.
But you can't. If a mod bans me from his communities, I just see their reasoning, which may or may not be bullshit. I don't see the context that sparked that reaction. And for removed comments, I can't see them anymore either, because they get scrubbed on my end too. On Reddit you were at least able to still read your own comments - at least for mod removals, admin removals were similarly frustrating because this also made appeals extremely hard (try to remember a 3 months old comment that lands you a temp ban or something). Here I can't even make an appeal, I just have to take it.
BTW being on Mbin you may not know, but a recent Lemmy update allowed people to click on the hamburger menu (3 ellipses) and see the entire modlog history for a particular comment
I don't know if that is just for registered users to see but I don't see any pancake menu on Lemmy comments if I for example visit this thread on lemm.ee, but maybe that instance isn't updated yet. I don't really follow Lemmy updates. I'd love it if the modlogs would properly link to the offending comments or whatever though.
This is hyperbole
Granted, I can't speak for the current state of Reddit, I left during the big protests so maybe the current conflict in Israel & Palestine had similar effects there... But I have never seen so many people simping for literal terrorist groups like I did here, not even in the Nazi infested subreddits like /r/europe I've seen so many calls for violence and genocide. People here constantly make excuses for what those groups do towards Jews in Israel, and when I call them out, I am suddenly allegedly making excuses for Israel - which I don't even do. I constantly see people justifying the rape murder and torture of those people on the festival, I see people justifying Hezbollah rockets targeting civilians, I see constantly people calling for executions of more CEOs since that asshole got shot, along with the glorification of the killer. If you don't see that, then you may just decided to stay out of topics like that, but even then you'd likely should have seen memes going in that direction, or the drama of .world moderating such cases. I blocked SO many communities, specifically news related ones, along with the mods there for their mod abuse, because they not just refuse to moderate content like this or disinformation, but then threaten me for reporting it - and despite the endlessly long blocklist, I still see it everywhere. Reddit at least had a lot of normie subs, but Lemmy lacks a lot of those communities or has them in a very inactive state.
I very much doubt that db0 literally "suck Hamas dick"
If he bans me for calling out people who do, then I can only assume that he's of the same mindset. I don't know how else he would come to willfully spinning my comments like that around.
Instead, create your own
Hell no. That seemed already insane on Reddit, let alone here.
I don’t know if that is just for registered users to see but I don’t see any pancake menu on Lemmy comments if I for example visit this thread on lemm.ee, but maybe that instance isn’t updated yet.
You indeed have to be logged in
it's specifically targeted towards the people I'm addressing
(1) That is not your call to make; (2) when people voted for Trump, was that solely their personal choice, or something that affects us all?; (3) when other people read toxic comments, it makes them feel unwelcomed, and entices the more introverted people, and those less desiring of controversy, to lurk rather than engage in productive conversations. Like a shadow in a forest that chokes out growth of the grass beneath it - why would you want to act in such a manner? Note I am not talking about those you are responding to, but the others watching that you don't even think about at all.
You seem to expect others to treat you "fairly". Well then, treat them even BETTER than you expect of them! They will not always return the favor, but your conscience at least will be clear.
Mods "own" their communities. Make your own, and then you'll see how much hard work it is. Why go around making work harder for people who are trying to help? Please don't answer this btw, b/c you aren't there yet where I would accept any answer that you offer. Instead, just think about it?
If a mod bans me from his communities, I just see their reasoning, which may or may not be bullshit. I don't see the context that sparked that reaction.
Both Blaze and I have mentioned how that is not true - well, it probably is on Mbin (unless there's a way and it is simply that none of us here don't know it?), but on an instance running any semi-recent version of Lemmy it's quite easy to find out.
You are feeling frustrated - I get it. So what: that's no excuse to go around slinging insults at everyone left and right. Be better. Or expect to get banned - that's just what happens, sure as night follows day, bans follow insults hurled directly at the admins/mods, surely that's not too difficult for anyone to understand. Nobody "owes" you anything. Though I have tried to offer these explanations here.
Also, I did not click it but the screenshots can also take you to your account's entire moderation history, which would include a temporary ban having been lifted.
Here I can't even make an appeal, I just have to take it.
Yeah that one is fair - we really need a procedure to handle appeals or at least communications. A lot of your bans come from "DM abuse", which could mean anywhere up from you sending gore pics to the mods/admins or down to just sending them a bunch of requests that they are simply tired of receiving. A modmail shared between the entire mod team would be perfection! One day... one day it may come, but this software is still fairly early in its development.
I can't speak for the current state of Reddit, I left during the big protests so maybe the current conflict in Israel & Palestine had similar effects there
I can all but guarantee that, plus seeing the state of Reddit as we left it, I would (naively) guess that it would have FAR more restrictions on what you can or cannot say than here, currently. But if you want to do a proper comparison between Lemmy vs. Reddit, you'd have to go there and look to find out? Simply claiming that Lemmy is worse than Reddit is insufficient to prove your point - especially when you are using Mbin that is quite a bit behind in its development compared to Lemmy, which has been around for a lot longer and so has a more fully-fleshed out feature set.
I've seen so many calls for violence and genocide
Sigh... yeah.:-( I hear that so hard, and yes I've definitely seen it. But calling them names like "dumb baby" isn't going to help matters any. If use of that language offends you, maybe try blocking it, including that whole entire community? But if you call people names, then people will block YOU, and mods remove your comments and ban you from their instances when you inappropriately try to DM them to find out why (honestly I'm not sure what this means there - see aforementioned aspect of a missing modmail - that's again more up to them to decide).
If he bans me for calling out people who do, then I can only assume that he's of the same mindset
I've already responded to this: no there are many other reasons for him to remove your comment. Your comment is abusive.
[about creating your own community] Hell no.
Okay then. But you can only control yourself, not others, so you either play by "their" rules, or make your own space, or else I guess you can feel saddened by it all? But you CANNOT just abuse other people, and expect to get away with it. You will be blocked and banned, as you are seeing happening. If you are okay with that, then all is well, but in case you are not, I tried to explain some things here that might help.
This idea sounds conceptually similar to something like kiwifarms, which seems like a red flag imo
Calling out mods for what? Not allowing your brand of freeze peach? Personally I think Lemmy needs more strong moderators because right now most instance's "all" feeds are just another stale parade of "memes". There is a lot of junk filler, and very few unique communities that make the Lemmyverse something that stands apart from Reddit.
I would also encourage instance admins to de-federate instances that host your idea of a "community" purpose built to publicly "call out" users. It's toxic.
How is your instance doing ?
Why I left Startrek.website, created TenForward, and the admin abuse I've suffered from ST.W since then
https://lemmy.world/post/11959030
Also, about the mods, that community already exists, it's !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
That user was literally banned from StarTrek.website instance for harassment of it's users, this is a textbook example of the problem with "call out" communities you are advocating for. They are more about creating drama than any kind of fact finding, let alone justice.
This gives me a fun idea, scrape the modlog for ridiculous moderation and post the results.
Unfortunately only certain people would find it funny, most of them outside of Lemmy.. :)
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