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“The American people are angry and want change. And they’re right,” Sanders said.

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[–] m_f@midwest.social 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I shut my mouth during the election and hoped for Harris to win. Fuck it though, the DNC has utterly failed us. From now on, I'm voting for someone that can offer real change. If the DNC tries to ratfuck another candidate like Sanders I'll write their name in and not give a fuck because the DNC gave us Trump, twice.

Now is the time to organize and drag the DNC off the corporate dick they're sucking.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Hi, welcome to the PSL comrad.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not that they don't want to institute these things. It's the fact that every Republican win shifts the Overton window, and makes them believe that they need to move more to the center.

"If the GOP are winning elections, then maybe this is what the American people want."

Also, none of us are the typical voter. Nobody on this forum, nobody popular on Twitter, nobody with a YouTube channel. None of us are the average mindless American that doesn't give a shit about politics, doomscrolling 4 hours a day, falling for whatever propaganda lands on their eyes, and are only voting because it's a team sport they get to play every four years.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wasn't going to vote for Biden but I decided I'd hold my nose and vote for her, even after the whole Gaza thing at the convention.

But then she started palling around with Dick fucking Cheney.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

The electorate failed us. They saw a child rapist, and said cool I’m in! Eggs man!

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From now on, I’m voting for someone that can offer real change.

So, Trump or whoever the GOP offers?

[–] m_f@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

If you're saying that a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Trump, guess what? Voting for whatever the DNC offers up still got us Trump, twice. I'd rather vote my conscience if it doesn't matter anyways.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're always overconfident, and don't care about their base. They keep running after Republicans like the fucking Chaney's. You'll never convert a conservative, you just won't. They're set in their ways. You can be good to your base and make more of them go out and vote, but nope they're too confident with their "vote blue no matter who" and "we are not the other guy" bullshit. I voted Harris, because I had to, but this may be the last time I'll ever vote until we get an actual good human being like Sanders. Go ahead and bully me into "falling in line", take your shots. Fuck

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just vote PSL, and vote for the local elections you want, and any ballot measures. Have been since Obama as that’s when they swapped from “change” to “nothing will fundamentally change” as I cannot support a DNC that is actively working against the policies I believe in.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Might as well just fucking do that.

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Nothing is ever really simple, but I am convinced there are two primary factors driving this mess. One is the incredible income inequality that none of our politicians on either side are willing to seriously address. The other is the destruction of our education system, resulting in people without the critical thinking skills needed to realize that their "enemies" are not each other.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

That's what you get when you hire old Biden strategists to your campaign. Those morons wouldn't know how to win a campaign with a step-by-step guide in front of them. They just love to be losers.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

There's a Principal Skinner meme in here somewhere, but I dont know how to make memes.

[–] Commiunism 1 points 1 week ago

I'm of the belief that even supporting the working class wouldn't have been enough to beat Trump.

The world isn't doing great right now, and there needs to be an unifying cause, an enemy to rally against and the right worldwide has done a good job to make sure it's nationalism with the enemy being a foreign element or non-local ethnic group (be it jews or immigrants or liberals that want to destroy the country, etc). Trump has leveraged that to great success, and Harris was trying to do that as well with some of her policies and campaign strategy.

If the opposition to the far-right ever wants to take back the lead, I feel like awakening the class consciousness once more is the correct play. Not a socialist movement (though that would probably happen as a result), but just redirecting the anger towards those who are actually responsible for the general decrease in the standard of living and those who have so much influence and interests that directly oppose the classes that are struggling. Granted, this would take a left-wing Trump who US might never get as long as politics are being controlled by big money and corporate interests.