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[–] Hol@feddit.uk 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Portugal just being the westernmost part of Eastern Europe again.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

In this case it's likely of Muslim origin, as iberia was under muslin domain for a long time and lots of Arabic names were behind.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

I just checked and there doesn't seem to be a federated "portugalcykablyat" community yet. 🙁

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

Why is it that only people that live right on a coastline use some variation of "day between two fasts?"

[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The Finnish word looks oddly germanic(?) Was it affected by Swedish?

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

When in doubt, always guess it’s a Swedish loanword. You’ll be right surprisingly often.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's pretty literally just T(h)or's day. But how they turned Freya's day into perjantai is pretty baffling.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even the german version is still close to this origin, Donnerstag is literally just Thunder's Day.

Another fun fact, while the norse pantheon is generally considered to be, well, nordic, before Christianity came they were also revered further down south by the Germanic peoples, sometimes under different names though (Odin = Wotan for example).

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

When naming of the DOW, the Germans followed the analogies between the pagan gods as e.g. noted by Tacitus. Mars -> Tyr, Mercurius -> Wodan/Odin, Juppiter -> Donar/Thor and Venus -> Frija/Frigg.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What happened in Iceland? I really thought they would have inherited this kind of stuff from Norway.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago

You are right, originally they did. The answer is catholicism happened:

A religious purist, Jón made it his mission to uproot all remnants of paganism. This included changing the names of the days of the week. Thus Óðinsdagr, "day of Odin", became miðvikudagr, "mid-week day" and the days of Týr and Thor became the prosaic "third day" and "fifth day".

[–] kindenough@kbin.earth 3 points 3 weeks ago

Dag van de donder.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh, I thought Chinese was odd for using <#>day and <#>month instead of naming each one. Guess it's just english and Italian/spanish/french that's weird.

[–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean the last 4 English month names are basically <#>month, but never got updated when the Romans switched from a 10 month calendar to a twelve month calendar. The suffix -ber comes from the latin word for month, with the prefix being the Latin number Septem = 7, Octo = 8, Novem = 9, Decem = 10. The two new months (January and February) were inserted at the start of the year throwing the naming off by 2.

July and August were originally called Quintilis and Sextilis so the 5th and 6th months and renamed after the calendar change, to honour Julius and Augustus.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly the same applies to Portuguese: Janeiro, Fevereiro, Março, Abril, Maio, Junho, Julho, Agosto, Setembro, Outubro, Novembro, Dezembro. Only the names for days of week are different here: Domingo (Sunday), segunda-feira, terça-feira, quarta-feira, quinta-feira, sexta-feira and sábado. Colloquially (at least here in Brazil) we omit the "feira" suffix, saying just "quarta" or "segunda".

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Kinda surprising that so many people consider Thursday to be the fourth day of the week.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, that's the ISO standard, so if you think otherwise, you are wrong :)

[D] is the weekday number, from 1 through 7, beginning with Monday and ending with Sunday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Week_dates

Actually some of the former British colonies and most of the Americas start the week on Sunday, Muslim World start on Saturday, Maldives on Friday, rest of the planet follows the standard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week#/media/File:First_Day_of_Week_World_Map.svg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/First_Day_of_Week_World_Map.svg/2754px-First_Day_of_Week_World_Map.svg.png

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, that's the ISO standard, so if you think otherwise, you are wrong :)

Well sorry I don't think SO.

Muslim World start on Saturday

Wait do we? Our firstday is Sunday, but Saturday and Friday aren't numbered (Sabbath and groupingday, respectively) so I couldn't tell you if they're the start or the end of the week.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sunday comes first in order in calendars shown in the table below. In the Abrahamic tradition, the first day of the week is Sunday. Biblical Sabbath (corresponding to Saturday) is when God rested from six-day Creation, making the day following the Sabbath the first day of the week (corresponding to Sunday). Seventh-day Sabbaths were sanctified for celebration and rest. After the week was adopted in early Christianity, Sunday remained the first day of the week, but also gradually displaced Saturday as the day of celebration and rest, being considered the Lord's Day.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week#Days_numbered_from_Saturday

So in Abrahamic religions, first day of week is Sunday, as the day after Sabbath. In Germany, Monday became day one in 1969 (DRG), and 1975 (FRG), respectively.