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If people have to hack your privacy-respecting browser to make it respect their privacy, maybe your privacy-respecting browser isn’t really privacy respecting.

#mozilla #firefox #privacy #privacyWashing #AI

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It would be nice if OP actually explained the specific issue rather than making some vague ragebait post.

Who in the world upvoted this post anyway?

[–] qgustavor@urusai.social 11 points 4 months ago

@aral@mastodon.ar.al At least it's just about:config, it doesn't require you to download the source code, apply patches might might break in the next version, then compile again.

Firefox is bad at the moment and people should be aware that privacy focused forks exist, but developers maintaining Chromium forks are having a worse time. Times are hard for those seeking privacy. :btr_bocchi_pain:

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What if people think they have to hack it, but in fact are making themselves more fingerprintable and/or exposing themselves to website breakage that would be unacceptable for most people?

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What the hell hacking is OP even talking about? There is no indication on wtf this post is actually talking about. I have zero idea what OP is referring to?

I also have zero idea what you're talking about. Who is hacking Firefox? Literally ANY actual information would be nice ...

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know if OP is talking about any specific measures, but in general, I know that Firefox is trying to strike a good balance with its defaults, making it as privacy-respecting as possible without causing half the web to break, or accidentally decreasing people's privacy.

Nevertheless there are projects like Arkenfox, Librewolf, or people manually messing around in about:config flipping flags like privacy.resistFingerprinting (lots of breakage there!), claiming that they increase privacy.

And of course to some extent they do, it's just that if, a month later, you try to modify a Google Doc and find out that everything is blurry, you'll have forgotten that you flipped that pref, and switch to a less private browser.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm okay with firefox's stupid defaults because it always lets you change stuff in about:config. I like how customizable the browser is. Also, yes, anything you flip makes you more fingerprintable, so it's always a trade-off. If you don't want to be fingerprintable then you have to use chrome with browser defaults. That's just the way it is. But then you are using a super non-private browser that isn't blocking trackers. So pick your poison.

[–] Yambu@mastodon.social 2 points 4 months ago

@aral@mastodon.ar.al

switched to LibreWolf about a month ago and haven't looked back since, not perfect but I feel a lot better

[–] lorenac@mas.to 2 points 4 months ago

@aral@mastodon.ar.al This is why everyone should use Safari.

[–] SirPsychoMantis@infosec.exchange 1 points 4 months ago

@aral@mastodon.ar.al any recommendations for an Android browser?

[–] bluegreenandfree@mastodon.energy 1 points 4 months ago

@aral@mastodon.ar.al What are some good alternatives? (Are there any?)

[–] sekhen@mammut.sekhen.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@aral@mastodon.ar.al

Or just switch to Vivaldi.
Chromium based, no tracking.

Jap, but chromium based is a big Problem...

Firefox is the only (major) browser stopping google from nearly 100% market share. If this is the case, they can easily patch "features" into chrome and not into chromium to force people to switch.

Any thoughts on fennec?