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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 2 months ago (5 children)

When people think a bidet is stupid, I always ask: If you had poop on your arm, would you clean it with water or just wipe it with a dry towel and call it a day?

Not to mention it's less irritating for ur bum

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] swab148@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

This question shows that people can have differing standards of cleanliness and it's OK. Because the answer is "would you spray your arm with water only or would you use soap?" Bidets don't use soap, so with either bidet or paper you can still feel dirty until a shower, it's just what level of dirty you're willing to accept.

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey, fellow Spuds fan. I have a similar one but it's: "If you smeared peanut butter on the outside of a watermelon but wiped it off with dry toilet paper, wouldn't you expect it to still smell like peanut butter?

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I feel like they're both gonna smell like peanut butter about the same

Especially if you do that with a potato instead of a watermelon

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Certainly the one you've sprayed after wiping would smell less like peanut butter though? The first thing we do when cleaning anything seriously is get the wiper/scrubber/sponge/paper towel wet, with either water or cleaning solutions.

The moral of the story is y'all need to wash your asses however it gets done.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean if your argument is that things will be cleaner if you wash them twice (once with paper and once with water), compared to washing it once, then the answer is obviously yes washing twice will make things cleaner than washing them once.

I do agree that alternating between scrubbing (paper) and rinsing (bidet) will probably get you cleaner - but based on the comments I see, that's not what bidet users are actually doing.

But yes, folks need to wash their asses better.
And their hands too, way too many people leave public washroom without washing their hands. Wtf.

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, that's not my argument. It's that the first thing we do when we are about to wipe down a counter (or anything else) with a rag is to get the rag wet. It's that none of us trust a dry wiping/cleaning tool to be effective, it's just going to smear the funk around.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, the first things you do when you're about to wipe a counter with a rag is to get a rag.

Sometimes you wipe with a wet cloth, occasionally you wipe with a dry cloth, but you never wipe with no cloth and just water.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think TP is better that bidets, but this sanctimonious metaphor is just so dumb that I can't deal with it.

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You haven't understood my pretty clear language and then are calling my metaphor dumb? Wow.

You don't wipe with no cloth and just water alone? No shit, are you going for a promotion from Captain Obvious to Major Lee Obvious?

Your "no, the first thing you do is get the rag" is about the dumbest response I can imagine and inaccurate since the situation was framed as "wipe with a rag" implying a situation where one already has the rag. You might as well have wrote "the first thing you do is put on appropriate non-skid footwear and remove any rings."

You're not pedantic, you're pretending to score points by calling me out for omitting the incredibly obvious parts that really didn't need to be said at all.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

the first thing you do is get a rag

Was because you were downplaying the importance of the rag. The rag is more important than the water is. If you're cleaning a mess, and your choice is between water and rag, you choose the rag.

How commonly do bidet users scrub with both TP and water in a single sitting? The internet and this comment section suggests it's pretty rare.

People are choosing between bidet (water) and tp (rag), and in your analogy, you're saying the sensible choice is to wash something with only water and no rag. Your analogy only holds water (lol) if you don't actually think about it.

Is that clear enough for you?

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

No, my point has always been that you wouldn't try to clean anything with a dry rag, so bidets make more sense than toilet paper. My example was putting peanut butter on watermelon and wiping it with toilet paper, you'd still expect it to smell like peanut butter, would you not? IYou took it to have some meaning I never intended.

I had a bidet for a while and would use it, drip for a bit, then dry off and "finish" with a round toilet paper. It's a pretty easy way to prevent the possibility of bidet water dripping down your leg and just felt...cleaner? This is a shitty conversation anyway ;) Anyway, this seems like we just misunderstood each other. I apologize for my share of the barbs. Take care.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You still have to wipe though, right? Using just water to clean it off your arm would still leave a stain. You have to make contact to rub away what remains somehow.

I've used a few bidets and while it was fun and they did an ok job there was no soap involved and I still had to wipe. I don't hate them, they make some sense, but a bidet is not magic.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

If the pressure is right u should be able to get everything, but yeah even then you need to dry it.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago

You still have to wipe though, right?

Yes, of course.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Honestly I'd say wiping my arm with a bunch of paper towels is about the same as spraying it down with a garden hose. I feel like people who say otherwise have never actually tried to rinse something off their body with just water pressure and no scrubbing.

I still plan to get a bidet because it's less irritating as you said.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 months ago

Three seashells and a poop knife was good enough for my pappy and my grandpappy and his pappy before him, and it’s damn well good enough for me & my sons.

[–] Cyanocobalamin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Wouldn't recommend. I bought a Kärcher brand one some time ago, it had too much pressure. Got my butt cleaned to the bone though.

Edit: I appreciate the advice about pressure, but folks, I was joking about power washers 😆

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

My bidet BLASTS my bits and I love it. I’m ALWAYS bits-clean.

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

In finland they are adjusted by the tap so you can have appropriate temp./pressure.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 months ago

I have the same, cleaned my tonsils a treat at the same time.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cyanocobalamin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... I probably should have watched some reviews before buying this.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

"Dad's awfully noisy in the toilet these days!" "It's his new bidet! He says it cleans his arse to the bone!" "To the bone, you say?"

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Such a huge difference in cleanliness when using these.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Everytime I travel I wonder how the godless savages live like this

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

A lot of middle eastern countries have these at hotels.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 4 points 2 months ago

You can buy portable bidets! Been a game changer for travel

[–] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

like walking on others poop/butt water is so civilized. wet wipes are the way to go.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I grew up in a Muslim country and I hate these. They are always either too strong or too weak. And they somehow always leak (no idea why).

Wet wipes ftw.

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

They are just bad quality then

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I highly recommend the rinseworks bidet. It is designed much better than the one from the pic. You don't have to shove your entire hand in the toilet to use it. https://rinseworks.com/

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Using mine rn

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. That's a reasonable review. I hate that people claim bidets to be magic.

[–] SsxChaos@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you had poop on your arm, would you clean it with water or just wipe it with a dry towel and call it a day?

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Would you only use water or would you also wipe it, use soap as well?

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

If you want to use soap, you can use soap. But would you rather clean you poop smeared hand with water or just wipe with toilet paper?

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 3 points 2 months ago

Would you rather wipe that soap off with TP or water?