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#StopKillingGames Update: Germany becomes 4th county to hit threshold (feddit.org)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Vittelius@feddit.org to c/yurop@lemm.ee
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geteilt von: https://feddit.org/post/2071604

This is your somewhat regularly scheduled Stop Killing Games update.

Stop Killing Games is an European Citizens Initiative aiming to keep games playable even after their developers and publishers have stopped supporting it.

Germany has hit the threshold sometime yesterday evening. France has also started to catch up. They are still below 50% but there growth over the last couple of days has been the biggest. Netherlands and Denmark are still in the low 90s.

The milestone comes on the eve of this years Gamescom in Cologne, Germany which is set to kick off today. SKG is not going to have an official presence there. (I've checked with the organisers) But if you are attending and want to help spread the word I'm happy to share official marketing material, either in the form of flyers or the files for flyers, so you can print your own. They come in both German and English. If you want some, send me a DM.

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[–] bullshitter@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can't sign but still will upvote babyyyy. Can't thank the EU enough for all their strict rules. Even brought type-c to iPhone.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago

You might not be able to sign this one, but depending on where in the world you live you might still be able to help. The official website has guides for a lot of countries. And if you live somewhere where you truly can't help (cough USA cough), then thank you never the less

[–] Poots@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

Same, our great American freedom™️ means that ~~we have very reasonable career politicians working on fixing this nonsense already~~ we don’t spend enough money on lobbyists in order to matter enough to then have any iota of actual representation in the formation of our government’s laws and policies.

[–] Een@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the update! I didn’t know this initiative was an actual thing for the EU. I signed both this and the Tax The Rich initiative mentioned by someone else in the comments. Hope it helps!

[–] Painfinity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Pushed my lazy ass to do the same. For anyone still hesitating, it truly does only take a minute and it couldn't be easier!

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 15 points 2 months ago

This is going faster than I expected tbh. Gotta check whether the vote history is available so I can make some "fancy" graphs about the rate of votes/day.

[–] HaleHirsute@infosec.pub 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My dumbass, who doesn’t play games at all, thought it was about doing away with games that involved violence/murder. Aye I’m such a dweeb.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To be fair to you: "killing games" and "killer games" do look and sound extremely similar. And "killer games" was the term people who wanted to ban violent games in the 90s and 2000s used.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

Killer game could also describe a really good game with no killing.

[–] HaleHirsute@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, and I’m of the age can remember a long phase when folks were really trying to limit such games as a serious issue.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

Signed! I recall reading a guide thinking "I'll sign later" - I just clicked Sign the initiative here, accepted their terms, signed in with my country's eID, clicked OK, done.

Less than a minute of work! Surprisingly smooth!

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Wunderbar! Jetzt lasst uns auf ein Millionen gehen!

[–] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pirate Software, a former Blizzard and Amazon Games dev, did a YouTube video on this recently with some fair criticisms of the initiative. It’s worth a watch.

https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y?si=HKxOkeovGNeMv0gE

[–] HATEFISH@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago

Thor is a grifter who just doesn't want his live service investments impacted. (Rivals of Aether) https://medium.com/illumination-gaming/ludwig-thor-team-up-to-launch-offbrand-games-42ee230d7cb1

Thor shows the opposite sentiment when talking with Tim Bender (Manor Lords) https://streamable.com/339l26 .

The development credit to his name is one undertale clone that has been in development for 7~ years, and QA for blizzard. He should NOT be treated as an authority on this.

[–] Soolonkivi@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

It seems to me that his problem with it boils down to the odd case of someone trying to ruin an online game to make the developer abandon it and then host it themselves to make money from it. This would only be a problem with free or very cheap online games because to have bots to disrupt the game you would have to buy an account for each of these bots. That would become very expensive very quickly.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 2 months ago

BRD! BRD! BRD!

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

would it be ethical to use a VPN to support even though I'm not living in the EU region?

edit: please, downvote someone who is genuinely trying to help your cause, I'm sure that'll help a ton. I'm sure I'll help spread the word now as you've shown me how you treat your supporters. Great people, great platform, great cause, I'm sure.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)
  1. This is about citizenship not about residence. So if you have European citizenship (even dual citizenship) you can sign from outside the EU without a VPN necessary
  2. All signatures are checked by the EU after the fact. So if you aren't eligible then signing won't help. Your signature is going to get invalidated
[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ah thanks, I thought it's like change.org or something that verify email and IP address only. Again, not an EU citizen so I don't know any of this stuff.

Edit: aaaannnnddd I'm getting downvoted to hell because I'm trying to help. Typical Lemmy experience.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

This is not some informal petitioning website. This is an official EU commission citizen petition. After the goal is reached the commission will look into it and take legislative steps if they see the need or address it in a way they see fit. Then it goes through the normal eu institutions. I believe this is a lot more powerful than random change.org petitions.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

aaaannnnddd I’m getting downvoted to hell because I’m trying to help

I appreciate the effort, but it doesn't really help if we just get a bunch of invalid signatures

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

yeah, I'm trying to help, but I don't know the details, so I ASKED. Is that wrong?

[–] StopJoiningWars@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

This is so dumb. Not the petition itself, but the way you're going about it.

You actively antagonise people who are annoyed to hell and back at having to go look for the reason behind the petition. You even had one guy wondering if it was about banning violent games.

All because you're too lazy to put it in the description. Way to shoot your petition in the foot. One line about "keeping games playable" without an explanation of the root cause won't make people join your petition 🙄🙄🙄.

Not only that, but this could now be related to actual spam given how often you're reposting it. E#: just looked, you made eight posts in two weeks. What in the world are you expecting to change by repeating the same thing over and over?

Instead of getting the impact you were going for (rightfully, since you explained jack shit), you're now spamming to get quantity over quality. Idiotic.

Addition of a few sources to show you how much you fucked up in your presentation of the petition:

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

8 posts in 2 weeks? That's nothing 🤣 People here make 8 posts in a day.

Also what's up with all the aggression? Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Stub your toe against something?

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

You have a significant amount of free time, don't you?

[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

1 million

Super hard for a country like Ireland, a population of 6 million

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

I think you missunderstand how this works. Not every country has to reach 1 million. Together all countries need to reach the goal. In addition to that 7 countries also need to pass a threshold. This threshold is scaled to the population of the country in question. So in Ireland fewer people need to sign than in Germany. But this is a separate requirement from the 1 million goal