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The gist is that Portland drivers couldn't stop hitting crucial safety infrastructure (proving its necessity) so PBOT gave up on it.

As one of the commenters pointed out: Since a pedestrian/bike fatality costs PBOT nothing and replacing a concrete planter a car has demolished costs them more than nothing, to balance the budget they're going to go with more pedestrian deaths.

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[–] ingalls@lemmy.today 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Frequent collisions show there needs to be more, not less.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It also shows that the layout of these calming devices was poorly designed. There are lots of ways to calm traffic without causing continual accidents

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

are they really accidents if they are predictable

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, otherwise they'd call them intentions lol

No one's like "I'm going to ram into this giant concrete barrier now," they do it accidentally

Edit: I don't understand why this is so unpopular

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

if u make shitty street designs, give driving licenses to people who shouldnt even operate a tricycle let alone a 2+ ton metal vehicle, let such people drive at reckless speed, sdont enforce traffic laws, and then put a concrete planter in the middle of the street that isnt an accident.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being so bad at driving that you can't avoid hitting a bright yellow concrete cylinder sitting in the middle of the road when you're doing 25kph.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 8 points 3 months ago

They should just replace it with steel planter so they have to replace it less often

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

TLDR; They didn't actually expect them to work. Every time they get hit, they move and they require a crane or forklift to put back into position.

Perhaps they should double the weight of them so they're less likely to move when struck.

[–] femtech@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

You need a real roundabout, not this half assed giant plat pot.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

If drivers couldn't stop hitting the planters, then the planters aren't the problem. But hey, at least Portland is accomodating to maniac drivers.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Stopping with 30 kph puts a pressure of over a metric ton via the seat belt on your body for a short time.