Asklemmy

As a former bakery owner: No, not at all. Cakes are made with loose batters, ideally with very little gluten. Breads are made with doughs, ideally with a bunch of gluten. Of course there are some formulas that might blur the lines a bit, but in general if you’re quite literally pouring the batter into a mold or pan of some sort rather than placing it inside, it’s a cake. Or a muffin. Or a cupcake.

Should also be noted that cakes are usually leavened chemically rather than with yeast. You don’t usually allow a cake batter to rise like you do with a bread dough.

whole category of cakes are called “quick bread” (ex. banana bread) because they’re baked in a loaf pan (they get the name from the shape rather than the ingredients)

Yes, cake is bread. This is controversial because of the savoury vs. sweet distinction we have, but there's no consistent way to include all the breads of the world without including Western cakes too.

Cake was bread historically

I think all other dough-based dishes derive from bread really, since I believe it's the most basis dough recipe ye can make...

Nowadays, my definition of modern cake = bread + defined-sweetness + fluffiness and softness

My proof that cake was bread; look at pound cake, one of modern cake's forerunners, and tell me no one thought and baked it, thinking "how about bread, but more deluxe?"

All words are made up, so if you would like to define cake as a bread then I see no problem with that personally.

I am unsure if others would agree with you, but they might given specific context.

Personally, I don't care too much, all I know is that cake it delicious.

P.S. There are definitely cakes that are not at all bread like though, like ice cream cake or cheese cake etc.

Cake is just uppity bread. Acting all fancy and getting dressed up for special occasions. You changed, bro.

Sort of, yeah. If you asked me to categorize foods as "bread-like" or not, I would definitely count cake. But I would probably not make a sandwich with cake.

Although clear examples of the difference between cake and bread are easy to find, the precise classification has always been elusive. For example, banana bread may be properly considered either a quick bread or a cake. Yeast cakes are the oldest and are very similar to yeast bread. Such cakes are often very traditional in form and include such pastries as babka and stollen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake#Comparison_with_bread

cake is: A: a breadlike food

Why are you questioning the definition you've provided?

Yes. Flour, water, heat. That's it. Tortillas are bread. Cake is bread. Crackers are bread.

You don't need cake. You do knead bread.

I’ve never make a cake from dough. I’ve always make cake from batter.

it's a doctrinal difference

also you could possibly look at something like gluten formation, but i suspect there's a gluteny cake out there as well as a glutenless bread

Whenever it comes down to definitions I like to go to expert definitions rather than common language. For food (are tomatoes a fruit?) I use FDA definitions, for which the definition of bread excludes what you'd mean by "cake".

• Layman readable synopsis (bakerpedia)
• Sec. 136.110 Bread, rolls, and buns. (fda)
• Sec. 136.115 Enriched bread, rolls, and buns. (fda)

I don't think the FDA defines cake, but it does specify how different types of cakes, brownies and such should be labeled (search for "cake" here).

Maybe yeast is the thing?

In which case, cake isn't bread.

And also bread isn't bread, it's just a really thick beer.

But it doesn't have alcohol, so you'd need to add sugar.

Then beer is cake.

These comments could be part of an episode of Qi.

The Cube Rule of Food Identification

No, but cheese is a kind of meat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fc_2BxVurM