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Vimms lair is starting to remove many roms that are being requested to be removed by Nintendo etc. soon many original roms, hacks, and translations will be lost forever. Can any of you help make archive torrents of roms from vimms lair and cdromance? They have hacks and translations that dont exist elsewhere and will probably be removed soon with ios emulation and retro handhelds bringing so much attention to roms and these sites

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[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 138 points 5 months ago (1 children)

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

You know humanity is fucked (pun unintended) when the post with the most likes is actually "fuck (insert whatever)".

[–] SternburgExport@feddit.de 73 points 5 months ago

Nooo… that was my goto rom archive after emuparadise went down. F u Nintendo I‘m not paying a monthly subscription to play retro games.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 63 points 5 months ago (4 children)

There are already torrents containing collections of all the games from old systems. What there needs to be is an "official" collection torrent for each system that archivists can store and seed individually

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 24 points 5 months ago

There arent ones that include hacks and fan translations. For example PSP games like monster hunter portable 2nd G with the FUComplete patch or Monster Hunter Portable 3rd G with the English Patch v5

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every time I see this news (Reddit or Lemmy) I see this kind of comment, but I wonder, what if I want to download just a ROM of a few mbs? I certainly don't want to hoard the whole collection, as a torrent user I believe I can just pick up the file (if it isn't zipped), but wouldn't that be against the torrent's moral code?

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But most (all?) Torrent clients let you select which files you want to download so of there was an official unarchived torrent then archivists could seed forever and others could select the ROMs/manuals/etc. that they wanted

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

And this way we will get uncompleted seeds and in the further future nobody will be able to complete the damn torrent.

[–] blindsight 15 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I don't think that's an issue. Downloading a partial is a problem on private trackers since there are so few users, but on a public tracker, someone downloading a partial is just making the swarm a bit more robust: they are sharing connections details to other users in the swarm and are able to partially seed part of the content.

Hit & run torrent users are the bigger problem; they add nothing to the ecosystem. But, for example, if there's a "complete early roms for all systems nointro unzipped" torrent, and someone only downloads and seeds the SNES section, then the swarm gets the benefit of someone sharing that section of the content.

You could even get a situation where there are no "seeds" but 100% availability, with different people sharing different sections.

I'm not fully looped in to why Anna's Archive did what they did, but their massive 1TB+ torrent zips are pretty useless for most purposes. I'd be happy to download a partial and seed books in, say, a particular genre, but I'm not going to seed a partial of a massive zip file that's useless to me without the full archive.

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[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 7 points 5 months ago

Do you know where I can find them? I will seed them all

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nintendo is just cheap Japanese Disney for gamers. They're every bit the corporate monster the mouse is, they're simply just not as powerful yet.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's honestly kind of amazing that it lasted so long in the first place

[–] Moorshou@lemmy.zip 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm gonna miss vimms lair, never told a soul about it. And I'd help but my internet is terrible rural internet.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Vimms always appeared first in Google searches for ROMS. it was inevitable

Ugh...Next will be the Archive

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 5 months ago
[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 5 months ago (8 children)

The whole point of IP laws (according to the Constitution of the United States) is to develop a robust public domain. Every registered idea, multiplied by every limited rights extention is a violation of public interest and public rights.

By burying or failing to preserve content, they are in fact stealing from the public, since we won't be able to access it when it is our right.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 5 months ago

This is America, the only law that is enforced is ownership by means of a monetary transaction.

"Ownership" by public nature is laughed at.

C.R.E.A.M :(

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[–] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Damn...Vimms Lair was my favorite, friggin Nintendo doing what it does best...

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

My kid has the first Nintendo Switch, he wanted the new one, but I told him "you're getting a Steam Deck, and we're smashing all Nintendo shit with a sledgehammer". Then I explained to him why it's wrong to support compaies that enshitify life, and now he is waiting for his Deck and has already pirated all the games he liked and has been testing a few emulators.

I'm proud of him.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago

At least vimms lair still has xbox roms. Pretty hard to come by compared to nintendo roms.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

vimms lair was where i first played seiken densetu 3 back in 2000 when it wasn't available anywhere

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is there a list of impacted roms?

[–] ArkyonVeil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not sure, but the blast radius is tremendous, even games from the Atari 2600, a console released nearly fifty fucking years ago have been taken down.

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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

A friend of mine and I put this together a few years ago. I hope yall find it helpful:

#!/usr/bin/env bash

download_roms(){
    for ((i=$1; i<=$2; i++)); do
        cd "$HOME/retroarch"
        curl  -G -L "https://download3.vimm.net/download/?mediaId=$i" -H 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/110.0' -H 'Referer: https://vimm.net/' -O  -J
    done
}

choose_system(){
printf "\n============================================"
printf "\n NOTE: This Script has not been fully tested"
printf "\n       It may not work as expected"
printf "\n============================================\n"
printf "Download roms for which systems?
    1. NES
    2. SNES
    3. GameBoy
    4. N64
    5. GameCube
    6. Sega Genesis
    7. Playstation1-2
    8. Playstation Portable
    0. All\n : "

read -r system
    case $system in
        "1") download_roms 3      981    "NES";;
        "2") download_roms 983    1770   "SNES";;
        "3") download_roms 2955   5932   "GameBoy";;
        "4") download_roms 2465   2761   "N64";;
        "5") download_roms 7461   7634   "GameCube";;
        "6") download_roms 1771   2464   "Sega Genesis";;
        "7") download_roms 6071   9894   "Playstation1-2";;
        "9") download_roms 23991  23973  "Playstation Portabale";;
        "0") download_roms 1      100000 "All";;
    esac
}

mkdir -p "$HOME/retroarch"
choose_system
[–] Barzaria@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for the awesomeness that is the script. If I might ask a question: why is the user agent Windows 10 if this is a bash script? I'm genuinely curious and I don't know why.I imagine this might be WSL. You did mention it was an old script so maybe it had something to do with that?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago

The "user-agent" part of the script is the same as a browser's user agent. So it's trying to emulate a common user so the site doesn't know it's a script, and there's not a more common user than a Windows one, so it's lying about it.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This shit pisses me off so much. I need a gun

[–] Muscar@discuss.online 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Use a NES Zapper converted to an actual gun, seems fitting.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Please also post on the filehoarder subreddit.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

I guess he means the subreddit in reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

It reads like many ROMs are already gone? So any archive created now would be incomplete, right?

Centralized archives will always be vulnerable to this.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 19 points 5 months ago

We need explicit legislation against this type of behavior.

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

Let's start mirroring and torrenting full ROMsets!

[–] bier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As soon as I heard about the emulator stuff I grabbed some archive torrents to seed overall more then 5 tb. All WII DS 3DS and SWITCH roms so they aren't gone if you have the space to join seeding pm me and I'll send you the magnet links because there are like only 5 seeder and a lot of leecher

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

I got a VPS I'm not fully utilizing, I can seed a bit

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[–] xKeaton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I recommend switching to Myrient! Has been my source for quite some time now, because Vimms was just to slow for me.

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Whoever runs it must have all of that stored locally, too, no?

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Dang I thought they would never get hit...

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would you think that?

I saw that place gained lots of popularity fairly recently... Mostly on Reddit.

Isn't there a way to just host all those roms in a site where Nintendo has no jurisdiction?

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They should still be on myrient, not?

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

For now. Myrient doesnt use torrents either so when Nintendo comes for them the files are gone

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[–] potat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

Are these roms/hacks that aren't in the roms megathread? I'd have to assume most of these already have duplicates somewhere else just by nature of them being put online

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Need a list of missing games first.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Would it be feasible to have/create something similar on I2P?

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