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[–] li10@feddit.uk 45 points 6 months ago

Rapists: “Ahhh, nooooo!!! Now I can’t do my raping because of this single change 😫😫😫”

[–] Hol@feddit.uk 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Spacious room with a single toilet and a floor to ceiling solid wood door: 🚨ILLEGAL🚨. But add a sink and anyone can poop to their heart’s content.

It seems the issue here is actually mixed gender handwashing, which is the real scourge.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 6 months ago

Mingling mens and womens hands in the same bank of sinks is obviously going to lead to sinful behaviour.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 months ago

The UK is not OK

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gender specific?

Who in their right mind would be able to create infinite toilets to have a specific toilet for every gender on the spectrum between feminine and masculine?

Or do they mean sex specific toilets? Which is just awful and non-enforceable.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 14 points 6 months ago

Or do they mean sex specific toilets? Which is just awful and non-enforceable.

Oi M8 u got a penis with that?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 6 months ago

Let alone the gender wars, this is stupid because it's impractical. The only division we need is stalls vs urinals. If you already have stalls, everyone has all the privacy they need. What's the point of gendered toilets??

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 24 points 6 months ago

Mumsnet strikes again.

Aaaaas a mother.....

FFS those people.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 21 points 6 months ago

We might be literally swimming in shit but at least it comes from gender-specific toilets. Hooray for the Tories.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is absolutely bizarre. At least in NA, there's a decent number of family/unspecified restrooms, which are also gender neutral and usually have a changing station. Some have gendered bathrooms as well. But for stuff like apartments, usually they just do a few unspecified bathrooms as it is easier to do.

This seems awfully unnecessary and expensive just to spite, what, 1% of the UK population?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's not to spite 1%. It's to give two sets of 49% safe spaces from the other 49%. Recent changes in attitude haven't made the previous need for segregation go away.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 6 months ago

Wtf do people do in bathrooms? You go in, find a stall, do your business and then wash your hands. Why does it have to be gendered? If it's about perverts creeping, what is this doing about same sex perverts?

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Trans women (let's be honest that's who you're talking about here) are 49% of the population? Wow that's crazy, where are they I want to meet them

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No.

49% (ish) non-trans women would like to have a space away from the 49% non-trans men. They probably don't give a shit where the 1% trans-women go as they're not the problem.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Oh sure that seems perfectly reasonable and in addition to gender neutral bathrooms separate ones are perfectly okay, as long as trans people are allowed to use whichever they're more comfortable with and this right is legally protected from TERF attacks as it has been under the GRA and EA for a decade, but I strongly doubt this is what was meant because this whole thing as always is a dogwhistle to signal trans hate since no one is actually talking about taking away sexed bathrooms.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can't decide if I want to die or emigrate.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 6 months ago

Live. Fight. Flee if you must.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 6 months ago

Ally McBeal was nearly 30 years ago now and we’re still stuck on this.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


New restaurants, offices, schools and hospitals in England will be required to have separate male and female toilets, in a move ministers say will combat growing concerns about “privacy and dignity” in gender-neutral facilities.

The equalities minister, Kemi Badenoch, said the move will help combat the rise of gender-neutral toilet spaces, which she said “deny privacy and dignity to both men and women”.

She asked people to report public bodies that fail to provide single-sex spaces or have policies not in accordance with the Equality Act.

Badenoch said the move shows the government’s commitment to “ensuring single-sex spaces are protected for all” after plans to overhaul the NHS constitution by limiting the use of gender-neutral wards.

“This is following our work last week limiting the use of mixed-sex wards in the NHS and demonstrates how this government is committed to ensuring single-sex spaces are protected for all.”

The government guidelines for how schools in England deal with transgender and young people require schools to maintain separate toilets and changing facilities for children aged eight years and over, allows staff and students to ignore pronouns preferred by socially transitioning children, and allows for sport and PE activities to be segregated by sex if there are safety concerns.


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[–] rayquetzalcoatl@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago

Glad there's literally nothing more important that our dickhead politician class could be working on 👍