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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So either polling is shit or people dumb or both. No news here.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

meh i just want a bit of sunlight after work

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[–] Fluid@aussie.zone 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's the wrong question. Ask if people support simply moving the clocks forward an hour and leaving it there, and I bet you will get overwhelming support. No more of this back and forth, just give everyone more daylight in the usable hours.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This would be a terrible idea.

In summary, the scientific literature strongly argues against the switching between DST and Standard Time and even more so against adopting DST permanently.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6692659/

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[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's interesting that people want daylight savings in qld during summer because we spend most of summer wanting the sun to fuck off.

[–] kerr@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago

Exactly. That’s why we’re an early morning city. Once the sun is up it’s too hot to do anything.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the US is trying to get rid of it. It’s basically a failed experiment at this point.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 7 months ago

Meanwhile the US is trying to get rid of it

Europe, too.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Things I'm sick of hearing about: DST.

Just piss it off worldwide. Leave the time alone. If you want more daylight hours, start an hour (or more!) earlier.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 7 months ago

Don't mess with time!

[–] spudsrus@aussie.zone 9 points 7 months ago

I'm not a fan.

Have trouble finding motivation to get out of bed. Having early sun is a huge help in summer and there's not much I do in the evenings that would be improved by sun there

[–] palitu@aussie.zone 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Survey data indicate most support daylight saving in Western Australia (64%). Support for daylight saving in Western Australia was higher in inner metropolitan Perth (69%) and outer metropolitan Perth (67%), compared with the vast remainder of the state.

[–] palitu@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I doubt the numbers. They are significant, and I expect that within my friends and family, I would have a number that support it.

However, I don't. As a result, I doubt the accuracy of the figures as a representation of the whole. I think it said 1100 respondents ? Edit: I just checked. 109 people from western Australia.

Not to many to represent the state.

Also, a referendum to the contrary also helps, but it was a while ago

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[–] Nath@aussie.zone 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's nearly time to try again. It's been 15 years since the last trial/referendum. That was 15 years after the previous trial/referendum.

We're too close to an election to rock the boat now, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were rolled out next term.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

Yes although support for a thing between referendums may not necessarily be the same as support for a thing following a scare campaign during the lead up to a referendum.

[–] palitu@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've never seen the point if it. Perth doesn't seem to need it

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

I always loved it. I liked the sun setting around 8:30-9pm. I don't really see the point in dawn being at 4:30am, as I'm never awake for it anyway.

Where it really makes a difference though is if you work with colleagues over East. I start work at the start of their lunch time, so I'm totally unavailable all morning. Same on the other side - their day is winding up by the end of lunch, so I only really have the morning.

I know it's only an hour, but it really makes a difference for communication to the other side of the country.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 5 points 7 months ago

I spent the first ~30 years of my life in the US and we changed time twice a year. I moved to Japan and grew to love not confusing the hell out of my sleep schedule and productivity by not changing time. Depending upon the season, I just do stuff at different times if I really care about being in/out of the light/heat. I hope Japan never starts changing times.

[–] SituationCake@aussie.zone 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I enjoy the longer evenings in Summer and having the sun up at and earlier clock in winter. I’m not sure why some people hate it so much. Most people have smart phones and electronic calendars that update automatically and everything just works, no input needed. A genuine question for people who don’t like it, why not? What specifically is bothersome?

[–] kerr@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because while the sun is up it’s extraordinarily hot and the UV is high. The more north you go, the hotter it is in the evenings and the less it makes sense.

[–] SituationCake@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Slip slop slap if you need to. But also, I’m in Melbourne so it’s good to have evening daylight. I think because Australia is so huge the effect of DLS is very different across the latitude. It’s good in the southern states.

[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Evenings are the exact same length regardless of where you set your clock. Thinking DST gives you extra time is the same as someone who sets their clock fast so they have extra time to get ready for work. It just doesn't make sense to trick yourself. If you want a longer evening then talk to your employer about it.

[–] SituationCake@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

Of course it doesn’t generate extra time, there’s still 24 hours a day. What is does is adjust for the earths orbit and tilt, which means that seasonally we can have daylight during the regular working hours. The nice consequence is that there is more daylight hours in the evening. You must have a very generous employer who lets you change your working hours based on the seasons when you want to do evenings activities!

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