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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 122 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Welcome to 2013, Apple fans! Maybe in 5 more years you'll get ~~homescreen widgets~~ customizable layouts (change number of apps per row etc). In 10 you might get custom launchers!

[–] gray@pawb.social 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ursakhiin 3 points 7 months ago

This interaction is so indicative of the reality of device fandom.

The Android user isn't storing information about the iPhone in their brain.

The iPhone user is responding like everybody knows everything about iPhone features and it was dumb of the android user to not know this thing.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

I'm not sure about iPhones, but iPads have had homescreen widgets for a whole year, maybe even two!

[–] survivalmachine 49 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This was not allowed before. Until just recently, the technology didn't exist to place icons anywhere in the grid. They would automatically smoosh up into orderly rows starting at the top-left with no gaps between icons. Apple is continuing to develop cutting edge innovation, though, and now you will be able to leave entire rows and columns empty, or any specific icon space you choose!

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Seems like a trivial programming task even my junior noob ass can handle.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Actually it’s because apps aren’t neutrally buoyant in the OS, they naturally float to the top

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Dear god, someone needs to make a physics based home screen. It would be utter hell. When you move, it all gets tossed around.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Auto rotate works on all angles...

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Widgets are now 3d boxes and you have to tilt your phone down and flip it until they face you.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Particle simulation home screen

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's probably a live wallpaper for that.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I mean apps icons that are rigid bodies that are simulated

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh oh. Gotcha. Imagine not being able to make an emergency phone call until it settled down.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Or making it by doing rageshake

[–] Starayo@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No wonder it took so long, must've been a nightmare to get every different app neutral, what with their differing weights.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago

They had to invent whole new algorithms to he able to give the binaries of all apps the exact same Hamming weight

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 45 points 7 months ago (4 children)

RIP in peace Windows Phone 10. Still the best home screen setup ever.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, it was a shame, and it only died mainly due to the lack of available apps in the store and bad management. MS took too long to release it with Android and iOS already well established in the market.. It was also the OS that resisted the longest in the Pwn2Own Hacking Contest in these years. While Android and iOS went down in less than a minute, before the hackers could access the data, on WindowsPhone they hit their teeth on a rock, after half an hour they could only access the cookies.

[–] Cube6392 6 points 7 months ago

Microsoft fucked up in the smartphone market so many different ways. The misunderstood the UX paradigms that would work, refused to change when Apple had obviously stolen their lunch money, stayed the bad course they were on when Android stole Apple's lunch money and then didn't even notice it has slammed Microsoft into some lockers because that's how little windows phone mattered. By the time Microsoft did like... Actual good market research and focus testing to build an actual good mobile os (maximally ironically based on their Zune UX which had failed previously because Microsoft was infinitely too slow to the mobile audio market) it was exactly as you said. The perfect mobile OS just 5 years too late to matter. More than anything what they needed to do was prove the apps you actually needed were present on their store and pay OEMs money to make windows phones to establish market share to make up for having a lower count of apps. They failed to do so. Now their actually genuinely brilliant mobile os only exists as a series of android apps that no one really gives a shit about.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can still get it with android launchers. Was toying with them the other day. Launcher 10 I believe is pretty close.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 3 points 7 months ago

I actually use Launcher 10. I love it minus the weird glitch where the letter selector from the all apps list occasionally not working. Best Android Launcher around

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can use launcher10 or any other launcher that looks like windows phone home screen.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the launcher I use. It's the best available from what I can find

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Different people have different tastes. I use Trebuchet 8. But person I replied to was asking about Windown Phone experience on android.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What is Trebuchet 8? I didn't see it in the play store for my Galaxy Flip 4.

Best I can find is it's pre coupled with lineage is and you can extract it from the OS or some such but beyond that I'm lost

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I don't remember where I found it, but it is LineageOS' launcher

[–] cqthca@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

can't get an windows 10 emulator for android?

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago

I use Launcher 10. Close enough to a Windows Phone

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 7 months ago

Me on Linux changing the look of notification area with CSS stylesheet after installing an icon pack that works not only on app launcher but in most of the system.

PS Don't forget to install this Magisk module that hacks Google checks so you can still log-in to your bank after you changed animations style via that other Magisk module.

[–] Rememo@kbin.social 22 points 7 months ago

Well this is good news. I never owned an Apple product until my recent purchase of an iPad Mini.

I was nervous about switching from an Android tablet, but everything went great until I tried to move my home screen icons where I wanted them, and resize a weather widget the way I wanted it. Neither worked, and I had to laugh at how ridiculous it was.

I'm very much looking forward to version 18 now.

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t get it, I’m on iOS 17 and can move them around? I came from a pixel and I was surprised that you could. And you can also stack widgets which is nice

[–] Dymonika 3 points 7 months ago

Is it about maybe allowing blank space between apps?

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Where is the clip at the bottom from?

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Control freak Apple throwing their customers another small scrap.

[–] Lwaxana@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

I should really switch to Android

[–] Blackout@kbin.run 2 points 7 months ago

I they didn't need Steve jobs to think for them they wouldn't have bought Apple.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

I hope it's an option you can toggle. I like the existing system which is essentially a list view where it reflows when you remove an icon. My desktop icons are set to work like this too.

I wonder how they've implemented this for iPads since there the way the layout behaves (list vs 2D grid) actually makes a difference when you rotate the screen.