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[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This concept is the "third space" -- a social space other than work and home where people can congregate, socialize, and relax. Parks and libraries are some of the only remaining spaces in capitalism where people can be humans without paying for the privilege to exist by the minute.

[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

True, that is what the concept has become. But we need to remember that "third place" originally ment places of business like pubs, cafés, barbershops etc.

Modern cities do need the kind of places you ment - not more malls or apple stores (think I read that it's a new trend to have those resemble places you can casually chill so they can casually sell you their stuff).

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Americans reinventing coffee houses that aren't Starbucks be like:

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think this is why Borders went out of business...

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A bookstore that also had a cafe in it. People would go there and buy a drink or whatever and read. The problem was after reading they didn't have to buy the book. I read a ton of comic books for the price of a coke back then. A library set up like this would be pretty cool.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like Hastings kind of.

So many good stores that are now extinct.

[–] jlow 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is secretly one of my life goals: have (graphic novel) library that is also a café. Maybe when I'm retired (aka never) 👌

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago

I like it, and can it have a dedicated place to draw/create? What's the auditory experience going to be like? You're going to have to tell us more about this cafe you're 'never' going to have XD

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 months ago

Some libraries, like Austin's Central Library, are centered around that idea.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would love this. Like another commenter said, after 10 the no talking rule gets rescinded and it turns into a cafe level of speech.

I’d love to just read books with my wife at a library late at night.

[–] tissek@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

Or simply have study areas where the silence is enforced. Rest of the premises just demands calm.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Neat idea, but most libraries I'm familiar with discourage too much social interaction. Maybe after 10 the "be quiet" rule gets rescinded.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They could have a common room where you are allowed to talk. But that would cost money of course, we can't possibly afford that.

Edit: please don't have showers in the common rooms of pubic libraries

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They could have a common room where you are showered to talk.

Sometimes the best ideas come from typos...

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I dunno if this idea is all that great. They came up with it awhile ago, waterboarding I think it was called

Blub glub gurgle

"Now are you ready to talk?"

Shakes head

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago

The type of nightlife I wouldn't mind. Looks very cozy

[–] Sora@reddthat.com 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My local library closes before night time, so I'm on board with the idea of them a library closing late at night.

I don't even need to talk to others, just seeing people there would soothe me and ease loneliness I get from not socialising much.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can't you take the bus or something?

[–] Sora@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

I never seem to remember that it is an option, so thank you for throwing that out there :P

[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

This post is pretty spot on.

Actually the public libraries I know have long abandoned the concept of enforced silence (and librarians 'suggesting' what the patrons should and shouldn't read).

They already have different areas for different needs. And often a café close by or integrated (at least in larger cities). In fact the opening hours are most likely the main reason people don't socialise there in the (late) evenings.

Actually there have been several instances where staff members forgot to lock the entry and libraries have been used outside of their opening hours - without any supervision - and the cool part is that nothing has been vandalized or stolen. Kind of like when libraries abandoned fees for overdue media and the number of returned stuff (in time and long overdue) increased significantly. Libraries have a more central position in our culture than most people realize, they only need to adapt to the times and (re)gain some respect of the public. As institutions they might be more needed than they have been in a long time (providing also reliable information, helping to gain (information) literacy and so on).

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This is a cool idea, but would significantly increase staffing needs. Where are you going to find librarians who want to work night shift?

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In Denmark, many libraries are open far into the evening/night (my local one is open until 22) and get this - they are unstaffed during those hours. You open the door with your loaning card.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago

Me. I would love to be a third shift librarian.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I'm willing to bet there are a lot of librarians who would enjoy working a night shift. I'd apply for that job.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Shit, people would volunteer for that privilege. 😆

[–] FlapKap@feddit.dk 6 points 11 months ago

They mostly are around here

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But also what if the public library did have a bar in it so I can get smashed while learning new stuff.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's what the internet is for.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean yea, that's what I do at home currently. I just think it'd be cool to maybe meet some new people while doing it.

[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

And thus: internet café... or internet bar?

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

That's a terrible idea, but I'm definitely lol'ing at the thought of it.

A built in coffee shop on the other hand....

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Libraries here are regularly opened until 22 or so. It's very nice :)

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 11 months ago
[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Try kava bars. YMMV depending on your location but here in Florida, there are many that are open late where people just hang out, watch movies, play pool, videogames, read, work, etc and they're usually not loud or crowded and they don't serve alcohol

[–] GrappleHat@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

This is a cool idea!

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

My assumption is that it would be popular. So popular that the library would decide on sell a little snacks, sandwiches and soft drinks to earn a little money. And as the sale opens, they would realize that they get a lot higher profit on alcoholic drinks. And since they are selling alcoholic drinks, it's unresponsible to have them in the same area as the daily area with books and study groups. Then they open a new section, maybe in a new location. And to save money on labour, they drop the non alcoholic products.

Of course this is taking it a bit far, but my point is that such a service has incremental steps, where each step would likely give higher profit until it is just a pub.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Yes please!!!

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

im not gonna go to a place filled chockefull with nerds

[–] runeko@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

Um ... welcome to Lemmy, friend.

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