They already have Hungary
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Slovakia is also falling to Russian stooges nd disinformation. It looks to me like if they'd invade about half the people (current government included) woud welcome them (at least at first)
Putin can actually claim whatever he wants and does so regularly. No one actually cares. And no claim or "being allowed to claim something" will actually change reality.
I think he meant "declare" as in actually win the war, not in the Michael Scott sense.
Didn't already claim that "all goals are met"?
People arguing for russia at this point are russian trolls. Just like it is impossible tonchange a russian trolls mind it is impossible tonchange mine on this. What else does Putin have to do? Send nukes? Probably still a reasonable man in those trolls eyes.
The best way to tell that someone thinks you're actually right is when they break out the "everybody else is a bot" argument. It's massively cringe at this point, cause you're intentionally believing something absurd rather than face valid criticism.
So are you are you a russian troll because i did not at any point mention bots but actual human beings paid by russia?
Oh, of course, that sure is a meaningful difference. My mistake though, please re-read my comment but replace the word bot with troll.
It still is nktnright but if it helps you feel to be in the right (spoiler alert, everybody does) there is not much i can do. Many people, me included, are tired of discussing the same moot points over and over. That russia pays shills to spread their bullshit "arguments" that try to defend this hideous unjustified war is prooven but i guess then you would want me to not believe the "propaganda" from the west but instead the "news" out of russia. Do you see the issue?
That's absurd, what is anybody's source on this claim? America can end this war in a month by just strong arming Ukraine to surrender Crimea. And best of all, if the conspiracy theory is true, we will know immediately, because Russia will have already gotten what they say they want.
That would be a 180 even someone as dumb as Trump wouldn't do.
What, ending a war? Actually trump would do that. He did it in Afghanistan.
It is interesting to see how people seems to think that if Ukraine (the victim) surrender everything will be ok while nobody think that Russia (the aggressor) could just stop.
I've seen somewhere else... let me think... oh yes, in the 1930's, just before WWII...
That’s absurd, what is anybody’s source on this claim?
History maybe ?
It's not the same situation. Obviously. Russia wants one small region that they lost custody of in their divorce. Germany wanted all of Poland, Belgium, and Netherlands. And it's certainly not as if the reason WW2 happened was that Poland surrendered eventually. The sum total of similarities between the two scenarios is: both countries tried to take land.
It's actually a better argument to say that taking Poland and Belgium by force allowed Germany to accelerate their war machine dramatically compared to their future opponents, and had they been surrendered to, might not have been able to pull off the massively complicated military feats that were 100% required to be done in the first few months of the war if they wanted to even have a chance to win it.
If you're trying to stop a steamroller, your best possible course of action is to not let it get started. And there is no steam roller required vs a surrender.
You never know - Putin attacked Georgia and Syria.
True, Putin could be plotting global domination as we speak. Hell, he might be planning domination of the entire galaxy as we speak! But we have zero reason to believe he wants to do so, even if he were capable of it, which he's not. Y'know, I bet his incapability of it has a lot to do with why he doesn't want to try.