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[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 25 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I thought the consensus was that Jesus was a very real person, but just a normal dude?

[–] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

There isn't. No one's ever found any actual evidence.

[–] taladar@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

Even the earliest writers in the bible wrote about him only decades after his supposed death. Outside the bible the earliest is Josephus 50 years after his death and it is a single sentence which doesn't quite fit in with its surroundings so it might have been inserted later. Usually you would not consider that convincing evidence of a historical person.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

Real real Jesus: Some guy why starts a cult that goes on to write an embellished biography.

[–] neckbearderino@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What I don't like about a lot of atheists is that they want to force a narrative thats simply not true. I myself am an agnostic, fyi.

Although most claim they are men of science, they often simply fall back on striking populism.

I understand what this picture is trying to communicate, but Jesus was most probably a historical figure, just not the one that the Bible is trying to make of him and he most certainly did not have SUCH a dark skin tone, just take a look at the average Palestinian.

Other than that in a religious context Jesus gets portrayed very different in different regions with different common phenotypes so that there is more room for identification for the average Christian and making it easier for the particular population to convert. In East Asia for example Jesus gets portrayed quite East-Asiatic, whereas in Western countries he often gets portrayed more like an average Westerner. Thats because in a religious context his actual phenotype doesn't really matter.

[–] Elchi@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Duh. hes a ghost now

[–] Fiona@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Look, I get what the image is trying to say in the first part, but maybe take a look at actual photos of Palestinians: Most of them don’t have particularly dark skin; yes, it’s darker than what the average Norwegian has to offer, but someone from central Europe who regularly sunbathes can easily get a skin-tone that is darker than what many people in Palestine/Israel have.