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[–] shiveyarbles 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit what is this garbage

[–] Kata1yst@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I get the disenfranchisement. It hurts.

But these people either don't understand the election system, or don't care about the insane damage a shift to the far right at multiple levels the US is facing of we don't stand up to MAGA again in the general election at every level.

I'll firmly support anyone running on a democratic-socialist platform in the primaries, but pretending they don't need a "D" next to their name in the general election is just stupid.

Until we fix how voting works in the US, this is the reality.

[–] shiveyarbles 3 points 9 months ago

It's a shitty system that's run by billionaires, but you still have to make a logical decision.. I mean eating Arby's is bad, but eating shit is worse.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

I don't disagree that both main parties are just puppets performing for the same master, but voting 3rd party is still participating in the system they have designed with the same illusion of choice, which is missing the point entirely. Still do it if you can, it's literally the bare minimum, but don't expect it to achieve anything in its own right, because it won't.

The point of pointing out the illusion of choice is for people to realise that the whole thing is a sham - elections are theatre to keep the population from turning on those actually in control - the rich. Pinning all your hopes on elections and elected representatives in a system designed to work for the benefit of a group you don't belong to, is never going to help you out of it. This kind of thinking is still falling in to their trap.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230803021951/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic

https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-democracy-illusion-choice

[–] Teon@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Voting for a 3rd party, no matter what it's called is a vote that helps the GOP win.
GOP=Fascism
If you HATE your freedoms, you should vote 3rd party/GOP.