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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

i had a thought about this.. ive been watching lower decks

the emergence of new life forms seems almost trivial to everyone.. its something that happens all the time.

for some perspective, humans are pulled out of other humans at hypothetical, but totally realistic rate of something like 1000 babies/hour... the 'miracle of life' at volume.

for each one of these humans, its clearly a momentous occasion. in aggregate, not so much.

edit: duuude its actually closer to 16,000/hour. damn

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 8 points 10 months ago

I feel like there's a difference between a worker robot deciding it doesn't want to live or die at the command of its humanoid creators, or a collections of nanites establishing an emergent intelligence, and a Federation Starship locking out its crew of 1,014 people and seeking out a white dwarf star like a salmon swimming upstream so it could give birth to an entirely new lifeform.

Even setting aside the ethical implications of using a ship capable of such a thing as transport, and putting into dangerous combat situations, is Starfleet prepared for similar events to happen on all their ships? What happened to the emergent lifeform after it left the Enterprise? Is it still out there? Why did it look like a screen saver from 1992?

But the crew of the Enterprise are fundamentally uncurious about the wider implications of the event.

"Amazing, isn't it captain? An entirely new lifeform brought into being by the very ship we sail through the stars."
"Quite so, Number One. Tell me, what's our next stop?"
"We're going to rendezvous with the USS Hood to pick up lieutenant Ro; she just finished her advanced tactical training."
"Excellent! We'll have to throw her a 'Welcome Back' party in Ten Forward."

[–] don@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

16k/hour = 4.44…/second. Whoa.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol the entire enterprise crew needs some deep therapy after all the traumatic shit they deal with on the daily. The most unrealistic part of that show was how none of them became became grizzled after 10 years of life altering experiences and losses though they often showed others who did. I want to assume they had access to more than troi and just didn't show it because an entire crew probably couldn't be supported by one therapist similarly to how whichever physical health doctor on board had lots of help and even other doctors.

[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

...Man, there would be a great web serial just following Not-Troi's therapy sessions, in which she is yet again trying to convince an alien not to vaporize themselves/the ship/the crew/the Riker after Yet Another Traumatic Tuesday.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

To note in passing new life and new civilizations...

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But season 7 was the last season of TNG. DS9 was busy with other things and Voyager was elsewhere.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Ferengi from "The Price" showed up in VOY, as did the Borg Queen, and Tom Riker was pivotal to an episode of DS9.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a huge universe, why would this particular entity have to show up in another episode? It could be off exploring the Gamma quadrant.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would Starfleet be so fundamentally uninterested in learning about an enitity literally birthed by one of their Starships?

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Because they can't find it? It's tiny, it flew off into the distance...for all we know, there are a dozen science ships looking for it during the entire DS9 run.