There was an issue where lemmy.ml refused connections from kbin instances but the admins of that instance fixed the issue yesterday. At no point did true defederation occur.
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That still doesn't explain why the block button doesn't seem to work.
I think you're thinking of Lemmygrad.
The admins of lemmy.ml are the same sort.
If so, they don't seem to reflect that in the way they're managing their community. At least, not from what I can see.
If they're keeping their politics separate from their moderation, I see no issue with it, or any reason for defederation.
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Fucking bait this post is.
Explain yourself.
Yourself is the second person reflexive pronoun.
I would mind, I just don't think that it's worth cutting off huge swaths of communities, whom are largely not Nazis, from each other.
I sure as shit am not ok with staying federated with Tankie admins.
Then find a new instance instead of trying to force this one to meet your standards.
Bye then!
That's the fun thing about this all. You can just make your own instance. Have fun!
But that's hard work. It's much easier to tell other people what they should be doing with the service they provide for free.
If it can't be done for free, but already existing services like Reddit & Threads are free to use, then the barrier to entry is insurmountable to roughly 90% of users.
Yes, things do have costs, and they must be paid somehow, either directly or through things like advertising, which comes with its own set of rather perverse incentives.
That most people value convenience and no direct cost to them is just a fact of the world, and I genuinely don't see the harm in companies providing services that fill that desire. There certainly are other things that they do that absolutely can be criticized, but "providing a free service that people want to use" isn't inherently objectionable.
you know the lemmy platform is made by those same tankies, right?
Are you against any communication with anyone in Russia, because of Putin?
Are we talking about Bayer or Volkswagen here?
I thought we defederated from those Stalin fanboys? wtf?
I'm not really sure what made you think of that? Pretty sure ernest hasn't posted anything like that.
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You can always fork a Kbin instance and run it yourself?
Yeah, probably.
https://raddle.me/ might work for you?
https://raddle.me/f/lobby/96713/heads-up-the-tankie-behind-lemmy-ml-got-banned-from-r
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Lemmy.ml is not the tankie instance. Lemmygrad is.
Lemmy.ml is simply run by a tankie, however that so far has not impacted the instance much.
As lemmy is currently growing faster than kbin, we would only be hurting ourselves on the 'official' instance. Instead better instance blocking on a per user basis just needs to be implemented.
So you're ok with it being run by a tankie because you want their userbase. Thanks for letting me know.
Find a new instance, this is not your fiefdom here to run.
Again, thanks for letting me know, captain 4chan.
Yeah, "go away if you're not happy" is really the lamest answer possible. And he is more like "captain reddit", always freaking out about popularity and subscribers.
Kbin.social is the official flagship instance representing kbin, and should strive to remain above squabbling over politics, only defederating from instances that are actively harmful.
Lemmy.ml is so far not an actively harmful instance. Plus, most people on kbin would prefer not to be defederated against their will and be unable to subscribe to communities from there.
Plus, most people on kbin would prefer not to be defederated against their will and be unable to subscribe to communities from there.
Well, to quote you, if they are not happy they can always: "Find a new instance, this is not your fiefdom here to run."
I think they are OK with seeing posts from all the people on the instance who aren’t tankies.
I don't believe it is about getting their userbase for the benefit of this instance but rather that defederating from a large amount of users not participating in any malicious activity on the basis of someone affiliated with that instance posting malicious works on another instance is (at least in my opinion) antithetical to the idea of the fediverse.
Doing so would step into the fallacy of collective punishment
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Wow I thought all of the crying about "tankies" was blown way out of proportion but lemmygrad sure is a special place 😖
I agree being able to filter/block everything from a domain on a per user basis would seem the reasonable middle ground.
Otherwise you'll just end up with constant demands to defederate based on conflicting moral codes.
I don't think growth should be the primary driver behind any instance, it should be about building and supporting the community on the instance.
Lastly I don't think your argument is very persuasive, pick an idiology/group you feel are immoral (nazis, kkk, isis, etc..) and see if your own argument would convince you.
I don't recall us defederating from them. Maybe try moving to beehaw.org, the definitely defederated from lemmy.ml and they have stricter moderation standards overall.
Beehaw hasn't de-federated from lemmy.ml.
I have tried banning the instance but that no longer works.
If with this you mean you blocked the domain, well, for some reason non-link posts use the kbin domain regardless of which instance they're from. So blocking the domain a thread is from won't stop you from seeing that thread. In theory, idk how it works in practice, but what you're experiencing seems to confirm this.
Just go back to reddit dude
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