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privacy has nothing to do with having something to hide. Instead, privacy means protecting the human being that you are, all the personal details that make you, you. What you care about, what you love, what you hate, what you are curious about, what makes you laugh, what you fear. And most importantly, choosing when you decide to share that information and who you share it with.

it is possible to build technology used by millions of people with privacy at the heart. We build technology to advance that right in order to help users reclaim their agency in digital spaces.

(But by default, Tor Browser is not shipped with uBlock Origin.)

PS: ONION LINK http://pzhdfe7jraknpj2qgu5cz2u3i4deuyfwmonvzu5i3nyw4t4bmg7o5pad.onion/tor-in-2023/index.html

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[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For an article explicitly from and about Tor, I would think a .onion link would be more appropriate, no?

http://pzhdfe7jraknpj2qgu5cz2u3i4deuyfwmonvzu5i3nyw4t4bmg7o5pad.onion/tor-in-2023/

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the suggestion. ONION LINK added in the post. The main link itself is intentionally clearnet, for happiness shall be in heaven over one non-Tor user who feels curious about Tor and privacy, more than over 99 right users, who already use TB 24/7. (Luke 15:7)

TB recently gets rid of blockchair: http://eweiibe6tdjsdprb4px6rqrzzcsi22m4koia44kc5pcjr7nec2rlxyad.onion/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/42283
and is planning to get rid of Google etc. from its Search Engine Options http://eweiibe6tdjsdprb4px6rqrzzcsi22m4koia44kc5pcjr7nec2rlxyad.onion/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/41835

[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Totally agree. More options are better. And I'm glad you left the clearnet link up as well.

I didn't know about the blockchair or Google stuff, so appreciate the extra deets.

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The blog post says, “it is possible to build technology used by millions of people with privacy at the heart.” which is also related to Monero, for example. It’s related to online privacy in general, not exclusively about Tor. For example, it includes a clear answer to the “Nothing to hide” argument:
http://wl.vernccvbvyi5qhfzyqengccj7lkove6bjot2xhh5kajhwvidqafczrad.onion/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument?lang=en

It’d be nice if even a single non-Tor user is interested in this… but if the link is onion, a non-Tor user can’t read it! Hence a clearnet link… Does that make sense? I too agree with you that, basically, we better promote onion when available. Except I wanted to share the link with people in general, non-Tor users too :)

[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 1 points 10 months ago

We are in full agreement. I did not mean my comment in a challenging way, just hoping to add to the discussion, which I have since you added the onion. Definitely best to have both links.

I appreciate your efforts here on Lemmy. Always good new content to view from you when I check in, Saki.

[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wanted to add that I don't at all appreciate the editorializing done in this writeup from the Tor team.

I have no particulatr love for any of the following topics mentioned, but the facts simply do not comply with their stance on "fake news". In case I need a disclaimer, for instance, I have not voted for Trump or Brexit or Bolsonaro. I with not be voting for any of those in future either. But for Tor to pretend that the "facts'" are in and settled on these issues is false and dangerous for an org that supposedly fosters free expression and should have no political affiliation.

The passage in question:

"We’ve seen that with massive data sets collected through online surveillance, governments and corporations can use their knowledge about us to manipulate public opinion. Highly targeted campaigns using this data, especially those using fake news or hate speech, have driven nations towards decisions that affect global society. The campaign for the Brexit referendum in the UK, Trump's election campaign in the U.S., and Bolsonaro’s election campaigns in Brazil all explicitly used these tactics."

Quite frankly this strong take assuming the facts are sttled and there is only one truth to arrive at and that "fake news" is arbitrated by some almighty knower of truths (in this case the outlets linked to as well as the tor staff posting this) is horseshit and loses a lot of respect from me in the process.

They do not say "issues on many sides of these topics", for instance. They say specifically the campaigns for those people/topics utilize fake news. And maybe so. But so too do their opponents and opposition "sides". This has been proven. So negative points for the editorial angle.

[–] hfondmanager@monero.town 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tor provides very limited privacy for agents below the NSA level only. And as you can see crypto bros copy their articles, too (in good faith of course). Did you notice the marketing language? They are selling you "privacy". You are the product, I surmise.

I like i2p. Running your own p2p node is fun and games. (mixnets).

And notice how they are discussing mirroring google OR bing ... what a joice. Waiting for a searx-ng instance that implements its own community ranking. Its there. We need to make use of it. How about living in a Monero search bubble?

[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 1 points 9 months ago

Upvote for i2p. I need to get to learning a bit on the p2p nodes and mixnets. Lots to research and implement, not enough time to do it all. But I'll get there at some point.