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Does Beehaw benefit from federation? (self.chat)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by bijuice to c/chat

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I saw this discussion brought up on a different thread and I though I'd get some more opinions on the matter.

The Beehaw community guidelines describe a place that's meant to be safe, friendly and encourages people to discuss their ideas in good faith. For the most part I feel like this community lives up to that; users of this instance are generally thoughtful with their responses. However, I don't feel like that level of quality extends to the users who post from other instances. Responses from those users are more likely to pendantic, overly argumentative, and unhelpful.

Now I may just be an elitist fuck so I'd like to hear your opinions on this. Does Beehaw benefit from federation? Do the community guidelines even matter if they don't apply to many of the people who engage with this instance? Am I just looking for a reason to complain?

EDIT: This post isn't a request for Beehaw to defederate btw. I just wanted to discuss the negatives of federation and what we can do to alleviate them :)

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[–] Recant 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Beehaw is dangerously close to group think that shouts down/deletes other viewpoints. There is a difficult to discern line between a view you don't agree with and what is labeled here as "close minded".

I myself experienced that when I posed a opposing viewpoint regarding a search for non right wing podcasts. I can understand wanting a podcast without any mention of politics but to say I don't want to listen to X group because I don't agree isn't a positive way to take disagreement.

I have noticed that beehaw tends to shout down people that disagree which is not beneficial. The more you shout down/ignore a group the louder they become. That is the main reason why I think, at least the US, is in the polarized political environment it is in now. We have lost our thought of empathy, discourse and evaluation of ideas different from our own.

[–] CheshireSnake@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have noticed that beehaw tends to shout down people that disagree which is not beneficial. The more you shout down/ignore a group the louder they become.

I don't have (and never had) a Beehaw account, primarily because I'd rather stay in small servers, so I'm going to have to take your word for this.

If this is true, then another danger is it (community, server, platform, etc) becomes an echo chamber. A place where dissenting views are suppressed and the majority encourages like-minded points of view. Imho, that's unhealthy.

[–] TheRtRevKaiser 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's possible that I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but you're posting on a topic on a Beehaw community right now.

[–] CheshireSnake@lemdit.com 3 points 1 year ago

Yup. I was just commenting on the other poster. I was using his statement since, like I've said, I never had a Beehaw account. IDK what goes on in here except for what I see on my ALL feed.

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