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Hi, someone posted this on another server. I'd like to request we defederate with rammy.site and exploding-heads.com as well. I scrolled through some of their posts and comments and it's full of ridiculous anti-left propaganda, for example a post where some liberal Florida family fleeing the state when some child protection laws got passed, implying liberals abuse children and won't live in a state that doesn't allow them to. Just take a look for yourself.

" Admins of Lemmy.ml please consider defederating from rammy.site it has been taken over by right wing malicious actors from exploding-heads.com and the admin is nowhere to be found.

It is imperative that you take action as soon as possible the users on rammy are using the site to spread their messages to a further audience, we must nip this in the bud. If you don't believe me check the instance for yourself, you'll see it dominated with bigoted right wing posts and spam communities."

Edit: So many commenters think this is about political opinions or disagreement. It's not. If I said "Mixing bleach and ammonia is good for you" I bet some of you would call that a political disagreement.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago (21 children)

The exploding-heads troll communities are tongue in cheek, and intended to rustle your jimmies. You're taking the bait.

[–] lori@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, and defederating them makes it to where they can't get the attention they want anymore.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They really aren't already. Even the "tankies" are telling them how gay it is, that all they can think about is other people's genitals. And the blatant troll posts rarely get above 3-5 likes and zero comments. I also notice the more sane instance members are defecting to other instances, because they want actual discussion. I've seen a few on here already, behaving like reasonable humans.

If there was a mass defederation, it could be argued they wouldn't have abandoned ship for calmer water.

[–] lori@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then...great. If the posters who aren't horrible are leaving then what's the problem defederating the trolls left over?

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My understanding is that if we defederated with them, they wouldn't see our communities in their feeds. Thus, they wouldn't know that people that just want to discuss common interests and not impotent hatred, are here at SDF, waiting for them to come be friends.

[–] lori@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can see it logged out, and presumably would have to already know SDF exists to get registered anyway.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, I don't think so. Browsing All, you can pretty clearly see what instance a post was made on. Consider me a missionary, because I fairly prolifically clique jump between instance posts. And what kind of psychopath would browse logged out?

[–] lori@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the SDF instance not primarily SDF users? Why would random people need to join because they saw it from another instance?

There's a lot of general purpose instances out there that aren't full of pages of slurs, I'm pretty skeptical that people on the instance full of slurs don't want to see those but if they don't there's other places they can find. Or they can find a new instance the same way any new user does, it's weird to argue you need an unblocked account to find out where other people are talking, new users figure this out every day without leaving users here wide open to trolls who are already spewing garbage in this very thread.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I admittedly don't understand what you're getting at, but I feel like I've established my POV. So I'll just say we probably won't see eye to eye on this one, and wish you well.

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