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[–] ster@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It's very likley that in a month or so Russia will have achieved some of their new targets in the east of the country. But this will not come cheaply and they will have lost more than they stand to gain.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Here's what was officially said on March 5th, I'm not aware of any change in their position since. So, not sure what these new targets you speak of are.

I'm also curious what you're basing the statement that they will have lost more than they stand to gain on. They see NATO as an existential threat, and pushing NATO out of Ukraine for good is what they wanted to gain all along.

[–] ster@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Russian forces have withdrawn from most areas in the north of Ukraine, presumably to be redeployed in the east of the country.

War is not cheap, and nor are the sanctions that have been placed on Russia. That's the cost. And what will Russia get in return? NATO has not changed at all, it's not clear that Russia's unprovoked assault has done anything on that front except possibly make Finland and Sweden seek to join the block. In fact, NATO now poses even more of a threat because they can use the invasion as an excuse to justify whatever warmongering shit they desire.

Ukraine may not join NATO, sure, but that's hardly a win because Ukraine is unlikely to have a pro-Russia government in the near future (probably in Vlad's lifespan). Installing such a government was clearly the goal of the assault on Kyiv.

[–] ster@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

And it's worth pointing out, war in the Donbas region will be slow and expensive for both sides. Compared to the potential for a rapid "blitzkrieg" success with an attack on Kyiv.

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