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It has blatant homophobia, transphobia, racism, vaccine anti-science misinformation, etc. What is mander stand on this?

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[–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I don't disagree, what I disagree is with a blocking action before they actually come and act in bad faith in a way that is difficult to contain. I see blocking an instance as an absolute last resort, after other approaches have failed. I do not want to block an instance because it has a potential to do something, a high likelyhood of doing so, or because it has done it to some other instance. I understand that this is an unpopular view, and that many prefer a proactive approach.

I can see that same issue when I clicked the link, I am not sure why. Worth looking into it. But refreshing the page fixed the button for me, does it do it for you?

[–] eLTeh@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I can see why you'd think that, and I'm also not one for knee-jerk reactions. I've moderated communities in the past where the rules insisted that heavy discussions and politics were to be taken elsewhere.

However, I think it's quite telling seeing how other instances have blocked them already, and, if you put exploding-heads into the search bar, there's quite a number of anecdotes of the damage they're causing. It's only a matter of time before they get here, and the damage may be subtle and insidious at first. :/

I'll put my opinions aside. Out of curiosity, what makes you think blocking is such an "absolute last resort" that it seems like too drastic an action? I don't really understand what value exploding-heads brings to us, and if it's truly, somehow, the wrong move (personally doubtful), we can always re-federate. I think prioritizing the comfort and safety of users who actually use mander.xyz is more important, since they're the ones contributing content to the instance.

Refreshing doesn't help for me, BTW. Still see the same issue on my end.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes you have to interact with the community for those options to show up.

[–] eLTeh@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Egh, that just defeats the purpose of blocking, doesn't it? I don't want to get near those communities with a ten, thirty foot pole. Thanks for the input, though.

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