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Anyone else frustrated by cross contamination from Youtube, Youtube Music and Youtube shorts? (self.technology)

submitted 1 year ago by greenskye to c/technology

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These are all products that I legitimately like and want to engage with, but linking them all to a single account and more importantly a shared recommendation engine feels very flawed.

My music playlists from Youtube Music keep showing up on my Youtube homepage. Likewise, engaging with Youtube Shorts (especially subscribing) also subscribes to their youtube channel. I don't know about anyone else, but what I find interesting in a 30 second video is not what I find interesting in a 10-30 minute video.

I feel like Google would be better served separating these recommendation engines. Even looking at this from a monetization lens, it feels inefficient. How do you guys feel? If you have any hacks or recommendations I'd love to hear them. I'm personally ready to create a TikTok account just to avoid contaminating my youtube feed.

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[–] zurohki@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've had to add something like #infinite_scroll_content > div:nth-of-type(1):others() for a few sites in uBlock Origin because every site wants you to just scroll the site forever now and attaches a bunch of other random articles to the bottom of any page you open.

I also block a lot of sidebars, sticky title bars that follow you as you scroll, widgets prompting me to chat with a salesweasel and so, so many cookie notice bars because sites still think they're a get out of jail free card by EU law.

I've actually got quite a few Youtube lines in my filters file, because it's my computer and it still does what I want despite the best efforts of big tech companies:

www.youtube.com##.yt-formatted-string.style-scope.yt-simple-endpoint:has-text(YouTube Music):nth-ancestor(13)
www.youtube.com###video-title-link:has-text(Mix – ):nth-ancestor(7)
www.youtube.com###title-text:has-text(Shorts):nth-ancestor(7)

[–] mrwiggles@prime8s.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a note, the cookie notices are required by EU law for any tracking of the user via cookies. I just went into this with my lemmy instance. Lemmy isn't required to have a cookie notice because it doesn't track you with cookies.

[–] zurohki@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to gdpr.eu:

To comply with the regulations governing cookies under the GDPR and the ePrivacy Directive you must:

Receive users’ consent before you use any cookies except strictly necessary cookies.

Provide accurate and specific information about the data each cookie tracks and its purpose in plain language before consent is received.

Document and store consent received from users.

Allow users to access your service even if they refuse to allow the use of certain cookies

Make it as easy for users to withdraw their consent as it was for them to give their consent in the first place.

I don't think I've ever seen a site with a revoke consent button.

Many of them start dropping cookies as soon as you load the page and mostly you get a link to their privacy policy rather than cookie explanations. So they aren't even meeting GDPR requirements anyway. Sites just treat the cookie notice popup as a complete GDPR solution.

It looks like Lemmy sets a cookie when you log in to an account, so it might actually need a paragraph explaining the login cookie. Or maybe it has one and I've forgotten.

[–] mrwiggles@prime8s.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

So, from what I understand, the login cookie is considered "Strictly necessary" as it is involved with the necessary functions of the site. As far as privacy policy and cookie explanations, lemmy has none, and I've been campaigning in Github to get the necessary changes made to make the Lemmy UI compliant, which to my understanding it is not currently. This has nothing to do with cookie banners and everything to do with privacy policy.

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