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The exchange is about Meta's upcoming ActivityPub-enabled network Threads. Meta is calling for a meeting, his response is priceless!

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[–] tikitaki@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (13 children)

It doesn't need to be said that Meta is purely driven by profit - that is any corporation. But Meta is incompetent and failing - yet still a behemoth. If they want to pour millions of dollars into the fediverse, then we don't we let them? They would presumably just be another site on the fediverse.

I totally support them joining on assuming it doesn't change the fundamental structure of the system.

[–] argv_minus_one 9 points 1 year ago (12 children)

If they want to pour millions of dollars into the fediverse, then we don’t we let them?

Because, if we do, they will destroy it.

[–] tikitaki@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

ok i'm not saying they won't but i've asked this before and nobody seems to be able to provide some mechanism by which they would destroy it

is the system not federated? if meta starts acting up, can't everyone just defederate them? this is what i'm not getting

if someone can explain to me what exactly is dangerous, i would appreciate

[–] Thelaea@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

This blog explains really well how destruction from the inside would work. And personally I'm not excited to have all Facebook users on here, most of that website is extremely toxic.

[–] Bloonface@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That article has been posted several times and does not explain how Google "destroyed" XMPP - it assumes that XMPP was some hot shit everyone was using before Google and Facebook picked it up, when in reality it was used by next to nobody, most people who used it with Google or Facebook were just using it to talk to other Google or Facebook users, XMPP doesn't support a lot of features that consumers now expect in messaging, and since Google and Facebook dropped it it has returned to being a niche FOSS thing - only now its advocates blame Google and Facebook for its failure rather than the fact it's not a very good protocol and nobody uses it.

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