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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not to be fair to yud, but so much fiction (written by men) sexualizes ~14 year old girls and it gets really weird when you start to notice it. This includes beloved science fiction like Snow Crash for example. Im starting to get why so many of us misinterpreted Lolita, and why a lot of women/girls are a bit annoyed with the sexism at times.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Dolores in Lolita was like twelve though, at least in the book.

edit: also I don't think Yud recommending The Softcore Adventures Of A Six-year-old In A Thirteen-year-old's Body as a Very Normal Book to his considerable audience fits this particular discourse.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Not the point? The point is that it was common enough for men in literature to creep on children that the obvious criticism was missed.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nabokov's Lolita really shouldn't be pigeonholed as merely that, but I guess the movies are another story.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It certainly shouldn't, but i was talking about the men who misinterpret the book a bit into some sort of love story, and not a creepy unreliable narrator who is trying to convince you he is really the victim here.

E: And don't get me wrong, I don't think 'young person discovers their sexuality and comes to grips with it' is something that should be banned from books or something, it is just annoying to me that so many books have the ~14 year old girls, written by a man, girl gets heavily sexualized by older men (or worse goes for much older man, bonus points if the guy is actually a writer (this is uncommon of course as that is quite specific)), pattern. It feels a bit like creepy wish fulfillment. At my book club we had a period where we noticed that every book we read for a while had the sexualized ~14 year old problem.

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