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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


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[โ€“] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is a shit take.

She lost because she's a woman.

She was never running against Trump. She was running against equality and misogyny. And she lost. In 2024, she lost to misogyny.

Jfc.

[โ€“] OmnipotentEntity 1 points 1 week ago

She lost for a lot of reasons. OP has one of them. You have another. Both are valid and work to partially explain her loss.

But honestly, significantly lower turnout by Dems this cycle seems to be the underlying cause of her loss. Whether that stems from Israel (or her gender, or her unwillingness to distance herself from Biden, or her inability to don the mantle of a populist in an age where populism is ousting governments all over the world, or her campaign's difficulty in countering Republican messaging effectively, or a million other reasons you could invent) is debatable, and probably will be picked apart and analyzed by people far more qualified than I and probably also you. There are studies to be made, data to gather, and so on.

Blaming everything on a single cause based on vibes is fine, rhetorically. And I wish Dems did more of that, because it is effective messaging, and it's certainly true that this country still has a misogyny problem. But if you're interested in understanding and picking apart the actual causes of Harris's loss, then being open minded does help. And the rhetoric can be saved for a forum where it is more likely to piss off a Trump voter.

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