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[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I've tried searching for "person-independent neopronouns" and failed to find any results.

Care to explain how this is different than referring to one's self in the third person? Because I'll be honest, I have a hard time wrapping my head around this.

My respect isn't conditional to my understanding, but I feel I could respect better if I understood more.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

My interpretation here is the first person (I), second person (you), and third person (he/she/they) pronouns are disregarded and are all represented by the neopronoun "drag".

I.e. use drag whenever you reference dragonfucker and you're golden.

[–] zagaberoo 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That makes sense, but what is the material difference? Isn't it ultimately the same thing by a different name?

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Material difference of specific pronouns? Someone feels better, and I'm out no extra effort, I guess...

It's as much difference as personal preference in chocolate bar brands.

[–] zagaberoo 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I totally get respecting specific pronouns, no confusion there.

I don't see how the scenario presented in OP is different from wanting to be referred to in the third person.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah! Effectively none.

Which does bring up an unusual case: how should drag be referred to as part of a group? They and drag? Or would just they suffice?

[–] zagaberoo 2 points 2 weeks ago

Some degree of identity erasure is inherent with mass pronouns; interesting question!

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They. It's the same as if you refer to a group of people with a man in it. The "he" is discarded. Drag doesn't use plural independent pronouns.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay but why not use the already gender-free pronouns I and you? That's got nothing to do with being trans, does it?

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Too much Elmo growing up. I knew that fucker would ruin Sesame Street.

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