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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago (8 children)

We shouldn't be forced to support someone else's family.

I hope you’ll remember that should you or your family ever need state hand outs.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I'm fine with regular support for people who need it, but not paying for people to create more people. There are WAY too many of us already.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There are too many people, I’ll agree.

However you can’t take away peoples biological rights to reproduce.

But you can give fathers a bit more time off early on to help with looking after their family. A few weeks of extra paternity leave funding would probably work out cheaper in the long run for the treasury vs all the alternatives.

Plus you need a constantly supply to refresh the workers who are getting older and cluttering up the top of the population pyramid.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to take anyone's "rights to reproduce," I just don't want someone reaching onto my wallet to incentivize increased population because its a stupid thing to do that harm humanity in the long run

This is coming from somene who supports things like single-payer universal healthcare, broad financial support for education, ensuring housing for people, etc.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is giving fathers a bit of extra time off incentivising increasing the population??? They were going to have the child anyway!

It’s not reaching into your wallet, it’s everyone’s. And the cost is far offset by the taxes levied on that child when it starts work anyway.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its right there in what you typed, its giving them time off. That's what inventivizes them.

I'm part of everyone, so yes, it's reaching into my wallet.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

Its right there in what you typed, its giving them time off. That's what inventivizes them.

No it isn’t. I speak from personal experience. Twice.

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