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A lot many individuals run TOR exit nodes, but I never hear about people running their own I2P outproxies. Is it really hard to host, or is there some other reason? I thought that if you could run a TOR exit node I'd think you'd be just fine running an I2P outproxy.

Running more outproxies will help in bridging torrents from the clearnet to I2P, which would be a very good move considering the crackdowns on torrents right now. Companies even want to involve civilians into their lawsuits in Sweden now, making the need for privacy/anonymity even more important when torrenting, which I2P provides.

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[–] sploodged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (14 children)

stormycloud is the biggest, there's also acetone and purokishi that are both very reliable. there's a couple others that aren't as stable right now. i2p's about inter-network services that often work without any need of the clearnet, tor is a better option if you're looking to do clearnet things.

torrents don't get bridged through the (mainly 3!) outproxies in i2p. they're bridged by random people cross-seeding torrents through clients like qbittorrent or bigly bt which work in both i2p and clearnet. Or, you can download a torrent from clearnet normally and change the trackers to i2p only trackers, then add to i2psnark. In both cases using biglybt/qbittorrent you should be able to connect to peers from i2p and clearnet through the people that do this, functioning as your own outproxy in a way.

Anyone can easily bring over clearnet torrents into i2p, and they are more than welcome to do so!

So i'm not disagreeing with you about i2p needing more outproxies, more is better, but tor does this already (and arguably does it better since there's so many exit nodes) so i don't think the demand is as big. You're right that it's pretty similar running an i2p proxy. As far as i know it's a very similar process running tor exit nodes vs i2p outproxy, i think acetone is also a tor exit node (i might be wrong on that), purokishi routes some things through tor, and stormycloud until somewhat recently mainly focused on running a fleet of tor exit nodes.

The nature of i2p means that to get faster speeds these providers may be running many i2p routers to provide lots of tunnels and load balance them, so i think that aspect is more technically challenging but i've never done it at scale myself. I think you'd need a handful of well resourced/connected i2p routers to offer a consistently good outproxy service.

[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Thank you, where can I read a guide on this?

Does Qbittorent support I2P natively? If so, I can probably run it on my seedbox. Never tried it before

[–] sploodged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It does, qbittorrent support is still "experimental" though. i2psnark and biglybt will outperform it.

If you can run i2p on your seedbox could do it. Simple enough on a plain vps. If i remember correctly though i thought the web interface doesn't (or didn't) support i2p stuff, only gui. Haven't used qbittorrent in a while.

I'm aware mostly of where to find this info from within i2p:

I2p wiki- filesharing

http://wiki.i2p-projekt.i2p/wiki/index.php/Filesharing_and_I2P

Filesharing forum

http://discuss.i2p

Guides:

How to correctly download torrents from Clearnet using I2PSnark.pdf

http://tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=66113

[TUTORIAL] How to correctly cross seed to make Clearnet torrents available for I2P Network in Postman tracker.pdf

http://tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=65809

[TUTORIAL] How to use I2P in qBittorrent

http://tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=72171

Correct BiglyBT settings for Ultra Fast I2P torrenting.pdf

http://tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=66500

there's irc in i2p, irc isn't everyone's favorite way to do messaging...but it's a good way to get answer to questions from people that know more than i do. i2p folks have a good amount of distrust for the clearnet so some of them stay away from it.

[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, this is very helpful. I'll read

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