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Michael Orlitzky was not having a good day with his laundry. First CSC Serviceworks, a laundry management company, replaced all of the machines in his building with new coin-op or app-powered ones. The card reading machines had been an issue for years because the cards would stop working and the recharge machine would steal dollar bills, Orlitzky said. Now he had another enemy with its own quirks to get used to. Plus, CSC had replaced the machines about a week ahead of schedule, meaning that any cash on his or others’ laundry cards was now worthless and unusable.

Then, one of the new machines ate his quarters. The first machine was stuck on the cold setting, and he had to pay another $2 and move all of his belongings to another machine. He called CSC customer service and was on hold for an hour. CSC eventually told him to get a refund through the company’s website, which in turn insisted he install CSC’s app to proceed.

“That was the day I decided laundry would be free,” Orlitzky told 404 Media in an email.

Orlitzky then discovered multiple bypasses to CSC machines that allow him to wash his clothes for free. Since then, he’s been pretty quiet about the whole thing. Orlitzky published a brief write-up of his escapades on his personal website last year, but hasn’t shared it on social media. Some people in his building know his secret, but that’s about it. That is, until now, with Orlitzky due to speak at the DEF CON hacker conference in August about how he found infinite money cheats for CSC laundry machines. The talk is called “Laundering Money.”

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 99 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (23 children)

CSC eventually told him to get a refund through the company’s website, which in turn insisted he install CSC’s app to proceed.

That should be illegal. I already refuse to install most apps, and I certainly won't install one for absolute basic customer support purposes.

Lol, like, I hit a deer a few years ago. Insurance wanted me to download their app, walk around my car and take pictures, and they'd send me a check the next day. Nope. I made them send an adjustor. I'm that dedicated to not installing apps. 😆

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Lol there's rental companies here FORCING you to download their app to pay your rent. Can't even give em cash or a check...has to be done through their app.

[–] OmanMkII@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Read up on your local laws, in Australia for example it's required that 3 basic methods of cash, cheque, and bank transfer are accepted, may be something similar for you

[–] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is not true. I've seen a lot of people from my own country and others claim the same thing, but so far every time I've looked it up for countries it turned out to not be true.

You just have to be clear about which payment methods you accept upfront.

https://www.accc.gov.au/business/selling-products-and-services/payment-methods

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