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[–] asjmcguire@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (33 children)

I'm personally happy to take a wait and see approach - because the whole point is that WE have the power. Meta HAVE to play by the rules, because if they don't they get defederated, and it's going to be very difficult for them to convince people to federate with them again after that. If lots of instances start defederating them, then their users are going to start complaining to them that they don't understand why they can talk to some people, but not other people. We have the power here folks.

EDIT: To add - the Fediverse is supposed to be an inclusive place.....

[–] polygon@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Well, the big issue here is that we sort of don't have the power you think we do.

What I mean is, say you have 10 servers. 7 are Lemmy, 3 are kbin. Great, each admin has control over those servers. Then you have Meta. They'll run 1 huge server. When the 10 other servers enable Federation, Meta now has 10 servers of content that isn't even on their own platform that they can sell. Your data will literally exist on the Meta server because your data is not contained within your instance/platform once it's Federated. Meta can then harvest the entire Fediverse for data like this. It's like an absolute wet dream for them. They don't even have to coax people to use their own platform!

Meta must be defederated the second they so much as dip a toe into the Fediverse or everything you've ever done, or do, on any ActivityHub platform will be scooped up and sold.

Edit: And it's even worse because all it takes is 1 server to Federate with Meta. If server A is Federated with your sever B, Meta can sill pull your data from server A they Federated with, even if your local server B has Defederated with Meta. This is a huge problem.

[–] feduser934@vlemmy.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I'm confused about what kind of data you want to protect. If you mean your posts and comments, they are already publicly availible on the Internet. Meta doesn't need to make a activitypub app that gets federated with Lemmy (or kbin) to aggregate and sell this data.

Is there an other kind of data that is visible only to server administrators?

[–] teruma 1 points 1 year ago

It's more about ease and precision. I can see on your post on the website that you posted "5 hours ago", but in the request, I'd likely be able to see an exact posting time for yours and significantly more posts (hundreds?) simultaneously.

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