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'Look at Hong Kong and think of Taiwan,' Tsai Ing-wen said. 'We don't want Hong Kong-style peace. We want dignified peace.'

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 15 points 11 months ago (9 children)

KMT presidential candidate Hou Yu-ih said on Saturday that a vote for the DPP was equivalent to "sending everyone out to the battlefield" because supporting Taiwan independence would touch off a war.

What's happening in Taiwan? Why did a presidential candidate said something like this? In another country, a presidential candidate telling people to not supporting their own country's sovereignty would be a political suicide.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because things aren't black and white and reality is all sorts of shades of gray. Most Taiwanese don't care one way or the other, they just want to live in peace. You constantly see this in the polls and the votes. If the Taiwanese people's priority was independence, then the vote wouldn't be so split. This is the reason the DPP hasn't declared independence, it's simply not what most Taiwanese people want.

Surprisingly, most Taiwanese are interested in their own well being. This is why the KMT won so many seats last election. This is why Tsai is stepping down. When they threaten Taiwanese people's well being, shockingly the Taiwanese vote against them. Again, they neither want independence nor submission to China.

Thus, we see the votes EXACTLY AS WE WOULD EXPECT CONSIDERING THE SITUATION. They keep splitting the parties so neither side can make a declaration one way or the other.

As an outside observer, I ask one simple question. Why is it so hard for you to realize that what I said is the truth and not what western media parrots. Why do you believe the black and white issues that your propaganda keeps claiming even in the face of irrefutable evidence.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As an outside observer, I ask one simple question. Why is it so hard for you to realize that what I said is the truth and not what western media parrots. Why do you believe the black and white issues that your propaganda keeps claiming even in the face of irrefutable evidence.

Hmm, did you reply to the wrong comment? Anyway, I'm not aware of current political situation in Taiwan and was really surprised by that presidential candidate's statement. Are you telling me that this is considered a normal statement for political opposition on Taiwan?

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, it is. It's been like this for decades now. So the fact that it's surprising and used in a way to shock western audiences tells you a lot does it not?

*Edit: Mind you, I'm not for Taiwan being absorbed into China nor am I strong on Taiwan's independence. I just want to point out the way western propaganda works to manipulate people.

*Edit 2: Essentially, if the KMT has been talking like that for decades and the Taiwanese still vote for them in large enough numbers to win them most of the seats last election, what does that tell you about the Taiwanese people's desire for independence? How does the media report on that? Why are these two pieces of information so conflicting.

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