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Here's my experience with 99% of private trackers:
"You haven't upload enough. Download a free-leech to upload more". So I download it, and no one downloads it from me.
yup same experience with the freeleech
You're downloading old and/or unpopular stuff. For you to upload content someone has to be actively downloading that content (that's how the bit torrent protocol works at the most basic level). If you choose some 5 year-old FL of a Game of Thrones pack with 7,000 seeders, that's on you
The incentive structure just doesn't seem designed well. It creates a zero sum game. When downloading you can either:
Not seed to 100%. This damages your ratio
Seed to exactly 100%. In terms of ratio maintenance across all seeders this option makes the most sense
Seed past 100%. You build up your own ratio but deny other downloaders from reaching 100% which hurts their ratio. They must spend longer seeding the torrent to reach 100%, which further decreases the likelihood of subsequent downloaders from reaching 100% when seeding
When you seed past 100%, you essentially have to rely on bad actors to create more upload work for good actors. If there are no bad actors then seeding past 100% is to the detriment of other good actors, who you want to protect because you also rely on them for system health. And private trackers aim to minimize the number of bad actors.
Some great private trakers implement a system where users are rewarded for the time they spend seeding rather than the amount of data seeded. This creates an incentive towards keeping torrents available to everyone for a long time, which makes the whole system healthier.
which private trackers are engaging this approach. Seems worth to join them.
polishsource (polish general tracker) requires you to only seed 48 hours within a week from downloading and nothing more
Most
and some other trackers completely ignore all of that and make it extremely hard to gain ratio. if they all had a bonus points system that would be great though
Basically RED only
yeah its red im talking about, they are kinda essential for getting higher up, but i just dont want to deal with it
Yeah, RED guarantees access, but it's also possible to gain access without it; it just takes longer. Sites like TorrentLeech can serve as valid proof for certain sites during applications, for example. Additionally, AlphaRatio also has some recruitment.
yeah, but i would like to get in BLU or AB, and they just don't take applications or registrations
BLU took applications a month ago though
wait what? :| i shoudve checked more
That's smart!